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Trump May Release Ukraine Transcript Causing Theories About "4D Chess," Was The Goal To Smear Biden?
Tim Pool Youtube ^ | September 23, 2019 | Tim Pool

Posted on 09/23/2019 2:40:46 PM PDT by Jayster

Published on Sep 23, 2019 Trump Considers Releasing Ukraine Transcript Causing Speculation About "4D Chess." Republican Trump allies have added to the choir of Democrats calling for transparency in Trump's dealings with Ukraine amid the Joe Biden and Hunter Biden scandal.

But if it was the case that Trump abused his power to go after political rivals why would they entertain the idea of releasing the call transcript. Why would Trump even admit to the call when it turns out the "whistleblower" wasn't even actually a whistleblower.

The news stories have begun shifting to Biden and what he was accused of. Its a complicated story but may actually be a big nothing burger. Ukrainegate may just be an inverted Russiagate.

But perhaps that was the intent. Republicans and Trump using this scandal in the same way Democrats used Russia against Trump. In the end I'd assume the transcript will reveal nothing and nothing will come of the Biden story.

Meanwhile, Trump's base won't care and moderates are burned out by 3 years of Russia collusion nonsense to the point where even if there is something bad for Trump revealed no one will care, many won't believe it. Democrats have cried Russia so many times that only the "resistance" will likely be motivated by any of this news.

But in the end it gets the media to resurface the allegations about Joe Biden and certainly the far left democrats are enjoying it as much as Trump.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: biden; timpool; trump; ukraine
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

If Trump did this, and I am highly skeptical of that, it might be about more than Biden. Ukraine is closely tied to the DNC/FBI/Hillary et al coup on the candidacy and presidency of DJ Trump.


21 posted on 09/23/2019 3:12:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Yo-Yo
If Trump releases the transcripts, then the Democrats will demand transcripts for every conversation he ever has with foreign leaders, forfeiting his Executive Branch rights.

I agree. Bad precedent.

22 posted on 09/23/2019 3:14:30 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Balding_Eagle
Maybe, but what if President Trump was behind the ‘leak’ just to expose Biden and the Left?

I don't think he did or would need to go to that extreme. For all we know, it may be the Dems who leaked it because they feel the need to pull him off the stage. They and the MSM all KNOW that Joe publicly admitted to committing this misuse of office, and they knew who authorized him to do it. They know they must put a plug in it before it goes any further.

23 posted on 09/23/2019 3:14:48 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Jayster

“smear”


24 posted on 09/23/2019 3:17:15 PM PDT by karnage
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To: Vaquero

If trump was going to smear Biden it makes sense he waits till he’s the official candidate.

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I don’t see the need to smear Biden. Biden’s endless gaffes are already accumulating into a mountain of damaging campaign ads against him. And his fitness for office (i.e., his declining mental acuity) is already under scrutiny, even in his own party. Biden is already on the road to elimination so why go to such lengths to smear him? Doesn’t make any sense.


25 posted on 09/23/2019 3:18:40 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: TigersEye

It’s all possible.

But; undoing or uncovering the non-Biden shenanigans in the Ukraine would primarily impact the conviction of Manafort; who was convicted of long ago pre-Trump money laundering activities. Neither of us can know whether Trump knew about that stuff when he signed Manafort onto his staff, but I’d suspect that Trump would not go too far out on any kind of limb for Manafort. Manafort could have some stinky money laundering activities in his past. As for what the revelation of info would for the FBI/FISA coup effort, my feeling is that’s too far back there to be dredged up to any great effect. There is much more recent and closer to home info about to be revealed (hopefully) by the IG.

The Biden/Ukraine connection is profoundly more overt, meaning open and shut. And, that confession/brag by Biden in front of the CFR is damning. The law regards spontaneous confessions as among the highest-levels of evidence.

The flavor of the Trump/Ukraine issue depends mightily upon wheher there was a quid prop quo in terms of foreign aid withheld/released. I don’t think you or I can know the particulars at this point.

But if Trump is the de facto source of the leak, IMO it’s a stroke of brilliance.


26 posted on 09/23/2019 3:27:37 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: Jayster
Missing is how the said “whistle blower” obtained the supposed contents of the phone call. I would imagine that when Trump or any president has conversations with foreign leaders there are only a few others listening in on the call such as a national security adviser and possibly a translator. I cant imagine that these calls are open to underlings in the White House or State Department. So it is unlikely the whistle blower had any direct knowledge of what was said unless they were ILLEGALLY listing in on the call. I would assume this would be a violation of the Espionage Act. Another possibility is that the whole thing is fake concocted by the swamp to entangle Trump in another election collusion witch hunt. This whole thing reeks of desperation as there was always the danger these revelations would sink Biden’s run for the nomination. Biden is already on record boasting how he used a billion dollar aid package to get a prosecutor fired in the Ukraine
27 posted on 09/23/2019 3:34:38 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

FWIW I lean more towards a Warren/Hillary hit to make sure Biden is out of the picture.


28 posted on 09/23/2019 3:35:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Jayster

Could the IG FISA report be about ready to drop? Dems might be trying to lay down some smoke cover....


29 posted on 09/23/2019 3:36:04 PM PDT by Cold War Veteran - Submarines
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To: Jayster

Chuckie Schumer is demanding a Senate investigation into the “whistle blower”. Mitch Mcconnell should agree with one stipulation, Joe Biden and his son are both brought in and put under oath to answer questions about this whole matter. Dems will freak out, but so what. Let them be the ones who torpedo the investigation.


30 posted on 09/23/2019 3:38:52 PM PDT by Trumpnado2016 (Welcome to Trump World.)
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To: Jayster

Joe Biden and his son’s business was old news....kept Joe out of the race against Hillary.


31 posted on 09/23/2019 3:48:26 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Jayster

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bidens-campaign-coming-to-an-end-thanks-to-ukraine-story-linked-to-hillary-clinton-nunes-says


32 posted on 09/23/2019 3:50:20 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I’m sure the Iranians value Kerry’s advice. Iran seems to be the middle eastern agent in the world wide DS effort to stop Trump. I would assume Kerry was the brainiac who negotiated the $1.8 billion pallet of cash bribe.


33 posted on 09/23/2019 3:55:41 PM PDT by hardspunned
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To: jospehm20

A regular Pied Piper


34 posted on 09/23/2019 4:11:34 PM PDT by keving (We the government)
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To: TigersEye

35 posted on 09/23/2019 4:35:47 PM PDT by 4Liberty (The taxpayers can always take one more for the team. - The Government)
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To: 4Liberty

ROTFL


36 posted on 09/23/2019 4:37:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye
POTUS Trump upstages grouchy girl at UN:


37 posted on 09/23/2019 4:49:23 PM PDT by 4Liberty (The taxpayers can always take one more for the team. - The Government)
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To: 4Liberty
The real headline ...

Trump Ignores Child With Mental Birth Defect!

38 posted on 09/23/2019 4:58:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: o-n-money

“’Does the Ukraine president like having his conversations publicly exposed?”

Doubt that Trump would release the transcript of a conversation without the other party’s consent.


39 posted on 09/23/2019 5:06:47 PM PDT by cymbeline
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To: TigersEye

https://twitter.com/i/status/1176193081911078912


40 posted on 09/23/2019 5:09:08 PM PDT by 4Liberty (The taxpayers can always take one more for the team. - The Government)
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