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In 2019, men are broke and broken by wokeness
The Post Millennial ^ | Sept. 8, 2019 | Libby Emmons

Posted on 09/08/2019 5:54:09 AM PDT by rickmichaels

Edited on 09/08/2019 6:04:34 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

I knew a woman who was married to a professional man. He worked hard, long hours, was always inventive, creative. He was a dedicated father; she demanded it, for sure, but even beyond that, he was all in and was an extremely active dad. She didn’t like to cook, didn’t think it was her job, so he learned how. She didn’t like to tidy up, and he was no Mr. Clean, but he gave it a go. She wanted him to be compliant, yet resilient, and he tried to be all of the things she wanted. He even pretty well achieved it. He’d come so far that he sent us all a poem about how to appease the women in his house, who wanted him to leave the toilet seat down, he learned to pee sitting down. What a mensch! Only, in the end, she tired of his acquiescence and left him for a belligerent roofer 10 years her junior.

The New York Post took aim yesterday at a study called “Mismatches in the Marriage Market” in the Journal of Marriage and Family, that explains that women often don’t marry because there is a dearth of marriageable men. Apparently, the definition of marriageable is “makes 58% more money than any of the dudes available right now.” The “patriarchy” used to keep men and women in their places, and now that women are achieving at higher rates than men, it’s still the “patriarchy” that is keeping everyone from being happy.

In the old system, women went to college to find husbands or got jobs as receptionists at law offices to marry an esquire before quitting the job market to take on the dual roles of housewife and mother. This imbalance in earnings and status was deemed to be just no good for the female half of the species, who ended up poorly educated, often jilted in middle-age, and back in the workforce without even a pretty face to get by.

Plus, men were not great. They lacked emotion, they were too focused on careers, ambition, status, fulfilling the role of provider. The patriarchy had done these dudes a bad turn, had made them so concerned with achieving the masculine ideal that they didn’t measure up to what their women wanted or needed. And women were stuck with the status quo.

A big push was made for women to go get more from life, husbands, love, family, all that stuff paled in comparison to what was achievable if women buckled down, hit the books, and entered the capitalist machine as worker bees eager for their own honey. Great, why not? Go get it, girl.

And they did get it. Under equity feminism, more women have college degrees than ever before, more women are successful in their fields, yet more women are unable to find suitable matches because men, it turns out, just can’t measure up to women’s expectations. Again.

If you’re one of the single ladies out there, this will not be a surprise. I cannot count how many intelligent, independent, attractive, [bleep] women I know who can’t find a guy they want to spend more than one night with, and even that is a stretch.

For a while, women were complaining that guys were afraid of commitment, that women couldn’t find a man who wanted a real relationship, babies, the works. But somewhere along the line, when the college degrees were awarded in greater quantity to the fairer sex, ladies began to have a different complaint. I started to hear friends carp about guys who wanted more than a hook-up, guys who wanted their time and attention when not rolling in hay as well. Why, just last night, a good friend, independent, hot, confident, all of that, told me she had to cut a guy loose because he was texting her asking how her day went instead of simply reaching out to find a suitable time for sex.

Is it any wonder that women out there who want to get hitched can’t find anyone suitable to hitch their wagon to? Guys have been overtaken by female accomplishments (kudos, ladies), and still have no idea what women want. A hookup? A commitment? A high earner? A hard worker? A partner? A housewife?

Women didn’t like how men were, so they demanded they change. Men changed, and now that they have, women don’t like what they’ve changed into. Women want soft, emotional, high achieving, career focused tough guys who don’t get angry, remember anniversaries, bring flowers, and can splurge on expensive meals and trips, without working all weekend, and still make it to little Johnny’s ballet recitals.

Contemporary woke feminism doesn’t care about equality. It demands that men strip themselves of their toxic masculinity, their desire to compete and achieve, to become more stereotypically femme, so that women don’t have to do all the emotional heavy lifting. Okay. But on the other hand, women want men to be high-achieving, breadwinning earners, who are professionally successful, and, if Tinder is any indication, taller than them as well.

The only problem is that these toxic characteristics are essential for success in the marketplace. When men let them go, all those things that these traits facilitated fall by the wayside as well. Men are emasculated for not achieving just as they are demeaned for those attributes that enable achievement. Wtf, yo?

Why not just let men be men with all of their bumbling, masculine, competitive energy? The truth is that most women want the opposite of a woke Gillette ad. They want high-achieving, strong men to be partners with. Even if they don’t know that they want that, or don’t want to admit to it, reality reveals they sure as hell do. Otherwise, no intelligent woman who got her man to do everything she claimed she wanted, including coming up with an ingenious way to make sure the toilet seat was permanently in her preferred position, would leave him for someone who promised nothing but stereotypical masculinity.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: dating; genderwars; marriage; mgtow; pua; radicalleft; redpill; waronboys; womyn
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To: gaijin

Is this also true in poorer areas of the US like Appalachia or the deep south?


101 posted on 09/08/2019 8:32:35 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: Notthereyet

I wonder what would happen if you put laundry baskets in both/all of the places he drops clothes at the same time?


102 posted on 09/08/2019 8:34:29 AM PDT by Moonlighter
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To: ConservativeMind

I had to reread that post, too. It says that his wife doesn’t want him around the woke-men’s wives, as they were all stimulated by the men with the guns..


103 posted on 09/08/2019 8:35:24 AM PDT by Reddy ( B.O. stinks)
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To: metmom

When I first got married 26+ years ago one day my wife said you are too gruff and ornery, be softer. I said all right you got it. For a week it was yes dear, what ever you say dear, oh that was my fault, I’m so sorry. Whatever you want to do this weekend is fine with me. What to eat for supper, why whatever you want dear. I mean I kowtowed to her every emotion and whim for a solid 5 days.

Now her Dad was a mans man out of the 1950’s hard conservative, John Wayne type and she loved him dearly. I figured the pajama boy routine would cause a reaction eventually and day 5, a Friday morning I woke up syrupy sweet and she threw her hands up and said I cannot take anymore of this. I can’t stand you this way! But I said you wanted me more soft and understanding... NO! I can’t take this! I want that gruff, ornery, old grouch I fell in love with please!!! I said fine but I don’t want fussed at because I’m being me. She despises weak men and has tried to raise both our sons to respect women but know they are the provider, protector, and head of the house.


104 posted on 09/08/2019 8:40:15 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: one4perl

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/0c/6b/46/0c6b462c2aa329cddbccef3f0ed1137b.jpg

Robert Crumb the cartoonist: the perfect female body


105 posted on 09/08/2019 8:41:13 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Popman

There’s nothing “feminine” about most feminists.


106 posted on 09/08/2019 8:43:54 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: PapaBear3625

I once heard that “Sex In the City” was basically about four gay men trapped in women’s bodies.


107 posted on 09/08/2019 8:45:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: rickmichaels

Let each choose their own. Just be honest with each other before committing. Wimpy men have chosen motherly ball-breaking gals for 500+ years. The stronger, secure people do gravitate to each other.


108 posted on 09/08/2019 8:46:11 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: rickmichaels

109 posted on 09/08/2019 8:46:52 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: rickmichaels

No woman is going to be having any access to my time or my money. Middle aged, independent and it’s going to stay this way.


110 posted on 09/08/2019 8:50:32 AM PDT by atc23
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To: rickmichaels

Pretty much sums it up. I got my wife from halfway around the world, and no, she doesn’t care which position the toilet seat is in, she doesn’t mind cooking/house work/doing laundry, or staying home raising junior. They still have values in the ‘old country’.

As to my boys, I told them not to bother with Americans, regardless of background - they’re simply too ‘woke’ at this point to be worth more than a one-nighter (if that). For the girls it’s tougher, I told them to keep their demands down on their future husbands and look for the ‘forgotten’ guys, as these will probably make the best husbands and may even be available. The jocks and Mr. America types can (and do) get all they want without commitment, so they won’t waste any time on girls who want that.


111 posted on 09/08/2019 8:55:12 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Moonlighter

“I wonder what would happen if you put laundry baskets in both/all of the places he drops clothes at the same time?”
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I actually tried that tactic! He still managed to put the dirty clothing on the floor!

It was then I told him I thought he was behaving in a passive/aggressive manner. LOL

I rather think it’s his way of controlling something in his world.

He is OCD and has Asperger Traits. Took us decades to figure out that bit of reality.

Still, he’s mine. I paid $5 for the marriage license in Maine a bit over 30 years ago and I tell him I’m still due change.

LOL Want to throttle him at times and love him at other times!


112 posted on 09/08/2019 8:56:00 AM PDT by Notthereyet (NotThereYet)
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To: lgjhn23

“Besides, most feminists look to be ugly, fat and lesbians.”

Why bring United Airlines into this? It’s really not needed.


113 posted on 09/08/2019 8:57:53 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: rickmichaels

My money, my choice
15 years old, and still relevant???

https://www.wnd.com/2003/02/17067/

But, as I told my friend, the root of the problem is that the kind of man she wants is precisely the man who is smart enough to stay away from her. Smart, educated women aren’t willing to date down on the social scale, so the higher they rise, the more they cut down on their available pool of men. Furthermore, the smarter a man is, the more he is likely to realize that being romantically involved with an intelligent, educated, upper-middle-class American woman steeped in 20 years of feminist indoctrination is about as desirable as being flayed alive and rolled in salt.


114 posted on 09/08/2019 8:58:04 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: SamAdams76

I’m a 66 year-old man. Been married to my current wife for almost 10 years. Tell the guys in my Bible study that I had never realized that a marriage could be so peaceful. We are both retired, mostly, and if there is something that is bugging us, we just bring it up and amicably resolve it in one very short conversation. We both have some rather serious health issues, but our love is stronger than ever.


115 posted on 09/08/2019 9:00:32 AM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: setter
Weird as heck. No thanks.

You must be quite young, the wife should never call the husband by his first name in front of the kids, otherwise they’ll get the idea that casual familiarity is ok. It is not < I didn’t even know my dads name (hardly) until I was a teenager and would have received a size 15 boot to the face if I ever called any adult by their first name. It is Mr. Mrs or Miss - ONLY

116 posted on 09/08/2019 9:01:21 AM PDT by atc23
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To: Vigilanteman

“It is no wonder that American men are increasingly looking for wives from Asia, Eastern Europe or Latin America.”

And Africa, especially if you’re a guy from Africa. I know a Nigerian who kept bitching about his ‘local’ wife in the US. He finally dumped her, went back to the Old Country to get a real wife, and never did bitch about her. So I finally asked him if he was happy with his new wife, he something like “Yep, she’s perfect”. Told me 2 things - there’s a huge difference in those women, and that my friend was NOT a guy who couldn’t handle marriage (there’s no shortage of them, either).


117 posted on 09/08/2019 9:02:22 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL
And Africa, especially if you’re a guy from Africa.

"Eddie! I want to talk to yoooooooooo!......."

118 posted on 09/08/2019 9:04:15 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: gaijin

Wow. Thank you, gaijin, for the link to the article. It’s always after-the-fact our mistakes catch up to us in the real world.

She could have chosen to adopt, I guess, and help a child get out of a horrible system.

She was still looking inward, I guess, and not able to see how to help a child other than her own bloodline could be gratifying.

So many single or even widowed women are know really facing loneliness.


119 posted on 09/08/2019 9:04:23 AM PDT by Notthereyet (NotThereYet)
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To: gaijin

“UCSF School of Pharmacy”

Not a bad way for a guy to meet some potential marriage material, especially if they’re foreign students.


120 posted on 09/08/2019 9:07:03 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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