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To: Cobra64; AlligatorEyes; LouisianaJoanof Arc; dp0622; thesearethetimes...; jacquej; GnuThere; ...

Low Carb / Keto PING!

I ran across this article from a few years ago showing the same debate in the UK. The backlash was unreal, with people (obviously after having received phone calls from their funding sources) running for the hills. I figured this weekend, being slow news, was a good time to post.

For those interested in some more reading, here is some other material.

The first one, just below, is their actual, 19 page report, complete with the 40 sources it cited:

https://phcuk.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Eat-Fat-Cut-The-Carbs-and-Avoid-Snacking-To-Reverse-Obesity-and-Type-2-Diabetes-National-Obesity-Forum-Public-Health-Collaboration.pdf

This article is 5 days later and discusses the backlash and how the panel members were forced to run away from the report:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/may/28/national-obesity-forum-advice-fat-dangerous

And this article is from almost 4 years ago, but related to the same topic.

https://www.credit-suisse.com/about-us-news/en/articles/news-and-expertise/fat-the-new-health-paradigm-201509.html

Finally, this one is also UK, but on Alcohol Consumption. But note how ‘expert’ committees can be rigged, which is what this is discussing. Basically, they were using opinion pieces written by prohibitionists in place of scientific studies and thus concluded that the (legitimate) science-based studies were wrong - based on their opinion pieces.

Rush Limbaugh used to do that on his TV show when he referenced his own book, since everything written in a book is true (LOL). But everyone knew he was joking. He would say something like: “You don’t have to believe me that high taxes hurt the economy. It’s right here in this book. See, page 47, according to me ‘...high taxes stifle economic growth’. There it is, proving my point.”

https://life.spectator.co.uk/articles/no-wonder-britains-alcohol-guidelines-are-so-extreme-just-look-at-who-drafted-them


[p.s., anyone wanting to join, or leave, my Low-Carb ping list, just let me know, privately or publicly]


2 posted on 09/01/2019 6:13:01 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL
Please add me to your list.

Anyone on Keto should agree with the article... fat, except trans fat, is NOT bad for you.

My $.02:

Anyone contemplating going on the Keto diet should research the issues related to keto/ketosis. There is a lot of medical information available on reputable web sites.

There are some serious health risks associated with keeping your body in ketosis for long periods of time...specifically kidney damage.

40 posted on 09/01/2019 7:04:34 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: BobL

Had no idea there was a Low Carb/Keto PING.

Please add me :)


64 posted on 09/01/2019 9:24:47 AM PDT by Freedom56v2
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To: BobL

Add me please!

Keto 9 months now, BP from 200/100 (or worse) now 122/73
From 265lbs to 218lbs
From 42” Jeans to 36” now (and my beer belly is almost gone)
I am much healthier, feel better, more active and I NEVER go hungry because if I am hungry I eat.
My Blood Glucose rarely exceeds 100 (after meals) low 80’s while fasting


124 posted on 09/01/2019 11:02:35 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (Damn the Torpedoes! Full Speed Ahead!)
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To: BobL

I hope I’m on your low carb list. If not, please add me.

Oh, if you enjoy snacking, you can still snack on low carb. And still lose weight or maintain! Make sure you’ve got a minimum 12-15 hour fast every day (including your sleep). Then during your eating hours, you can snack pretty much all you want. Decide ahead of time on your quantity to fit your plan. I commute for hours a day and I enjoy chewing on food in the car.

First choice for snacks is of course protein, like beef jerky style snacks (I like my Epic brand “Bambi sticks” - what I call the venison ones in front of vegans, lol), string cheese, hand boiled eggs, etc.

Then there are the snacks that incorporate some of your carbs for a day. Like peanut butter packets or other nut butter packets. Or nuts if you can portion them properly.

Then your beloved go to fat treat. Mine is 92% dark chocolate. It is not sweet at all. It’s not candy. It’s an antioxidant high fat delicious natural food.

Snacking is ok but not on carbs!


164 posted on 09/01/2019 6:39:14 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: BobL

Please add me to your Low-Carb ping list, BobL.   Thanks!

165 posted on 09/01/2019 6:39:21 PM PDT by Songcraft
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