Posted on 08/28/2019 9:59:42 PM PDT by RevelationDavid
Im sure this post wont stay up long But as a born-again evangelical I no longer feel comfortable on this site. It has become openly and aggressively pro Catholic. Catholicism is heresy.
Thank you Jim for putting so much effort into this clearinghouse of ideas But the bombardment of papers nonsense can a longer be tolerated by me.
God bless all who proclaim Jesus Christ as Lord. God bless America
Before The Pill fostered a current generation of many spoiled, easily offended, touchy intolerant protesters.
I don’t know if the kitty bit me; but I have had a few timeouts over the years.
Most I deserved as well.
A couple of times I was merely misunderstood. Sniff - sniff.
The wife noticed these 1-2 hour daily gains in my free time and immediately pounced upon me with a bigger HoneyDo list!
I hope I’ve learned my lesson well, as I do NOT want to repeat THOSE episodes!!
Really?
I gotta side with Marx on this: Groucho; that is.
"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."
When you finally get tired of just complaining; you might actually DO something.
I'm sure there are a few doors, on a few RC churches, that could use a list or two tacked to them.
So?
A Catholic will say the same thing!
However; sooner or later; a "BUT" will pop up in the conversation.
So; here we are.
Over 200 replies, THOUSANDS of words; but has anyone noticed that in a catfight P vs C thread there is very few words of SCRIPTURE presented?
I currently worship in my own way now. I dont enter any special building to do it. The fix would be after Francis, if the college of cardinals decide to fix the problem. Until then Ill keep worshiping my way.
The American Protective Association Oath In 1887, Henry F. Bowers founded the nativist American Protective Association (APA) in Clinton, Iowa. Bowers was a Mason, and he drew from its fraternal ritualelaborate regalia, initiation ceremonies, and a secret oathin organizing the APA. He also drew many Masons, an organization that barred Catholics.
So you mean a fraternal non-Christian sect (which has been long-opposed by evangelicals such as by Walter Martin ) that from 1738 (in which Pope Clement XII promulgated In eminenti apostolatus, the first canonical prohibition of Masonic associations) had been damned by Rome, was acting like the Catholic church, except with far more moderation?
This secret oath taken by members of the American Protective Association in the 1890s revealed the depth of Protestant distrust and fear of Catholics holding public office.
In 1887. So just why would there be Protestant distrust and fear of Catholics holding public office, when obedience to the pope required:
Secular authorities, whatever office they may hold, shall be admonished and induced and if necessary compelled by ecclesiastical censure,...to exterminate in the territories subject to their jurisdiction all heretics pointed out by the Church ;
But if a temporal ruler, after having been requested and admonished by the Church, should neglect to cleanse his territory of this heretical foulness, let him be excommunicated..that he may declare the rulers vassals absolved from their allegiance and may offer the territory to be ruled lay Catholics, who on the extermination of the heretics may possess it without hindrance Canons of the Ecumenical Fourth Lateran Council (canon 3), 1215: http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis/lateran4.asp
The head of state or ruler must, within ten days after the accusation, complete the following tasks: the destruction of the houses, the imposition of the fines, the consigning and dividing-up of the valuables that have been found or seized , all of which have already been described in this decree. He must obtain all fines in coin within three months, and divide them up in the manner to be set forth hereafter, and convict of crime those who cannot pay, and hold them in prison until they can ....
The head of state or ruler must divide up all the property of the heretics that is seized or discovered by the aforesaid officials , and the fines exacted from these heretics, in the form and manner following: one-third shall go to the government of the state or district. The second as a reward of the industry of the office shall go to the officials who handled this particular case. The third shall be deposited in some secure place to be kept by the aforesaid Diocesan bishop and inquisitors,and spent as they shall think fit to promote the faith and extirpate{11} heretics, this policy prevailing in spite of any statute that has been or shall be enacted against this dividing-up of the heretics' property . - Pope Innocent IV, Ad extirpanda :
Then we have the history of persecution and murder of those who would not submit to Rome .
You can complain that this does not fit well with the attempt to portray Catholics as pitiful objects of persecution, but the fact remains that in the context of history everyone who believed in freedom of worship (or not to) had sound reasons to oppose Catholics obtaining in public office. Of course, they also should oppose any formal state church enforced by the power of the sword of men, though not from moral laws as regards actions, that flow from Christian religion.
But in the context of the post, one was being charged with denying the Trinity by denying the RC deuteros under the premise that it had been in the Old Testament for about 1800 years. Which was both a fallacious premise as well as a logical fallacy, as explained .
True - reading a book about Christians going into danger to help others during a serious disease breakout - A kid mentions that a lot of Christian religions are participating but not so many Catholics....he asks why they don’t do as the bible suggests and the mother quips that Catholics don’t read the Bible...
The Pill, and it’s seepage into the water system. Now it makes even males intolerant and easily offended protesters. It all starts in grade school nowadays, with marxist inspired teachers telling kids to be overly sensitive. It then gets worse in college, where one’s grades in certain classes DEPEND on being an intolerable obnoxious snowflake.
Where do you get that idea?
It all began with Lucifer who was apparently "offended" by God having the preeminent position of power and honor, and his arrogant selfish "I will" assertions (I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.. (Isaiah 14:14) marked the first occasion of the "share the wealth" demand under the false premise of injustice, and the first "occupy movement." Which was essentially what the devil worked to seduce Eve with, in selfishly trying to get what he wanted. So do his proxy servants. God in contrast, is the benevolent Giver, while the devil is a thief, a liar and a murderer. (Jn. 8:44; 10:1)
We can be sure God has His eye on all of us. If we are wrong about anything and are of a devoted mind and heart, and ask Him to do so, He will lead us out of any unconscious error we might be in.
Those who argue one brand of Christian faith against another are missing that deeper reality. It’s between the individual and God. If that personal relationship isn’t there, then we have no way to be led out of wrong thinking.
Remember how Amir asked the Lord to give him the lowdown on Jesus. The same applies to arguments among those who have received Him.
Rome.
It does NOTHING to dissuade that view.
Mary Leads Her Servants to Heaven
by St. Alphonsus de Liguori
In this article taken from The Glories of Mary, Saint Alphonsus explains that there are countless souls in Heaven who are there now only because Mary, by Her powerful intercession, led them there.
If a soul persists in true devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary, She will certainly lead that soul to Heaven.
A devotion to Mary can certainly help but no teaching of the Church could ever lead one to believe that it is the path to salvation.
The Word of God tells you that the Righteousness of Christ is IMPARTED to you the hour you believe God sent Him for your salvation.
The difference in infusion and imputation is eternally meaningful. The infusion lie exploits the pride nature of all humans. The Imputation truth honors the source of righteousness not someone trying to earn it.
What is obvious from the real world though, is that the Catholic and Orthodox Churches don't trash anybody, while the evangelical world produces garbage like Chick Tracts that accuses other Christians of being borderline demonic.
Help WHAT?
Jesus needs NO 'help' from ANYONE to save MY soul.
There was NO teaching about Mary; other than she was a virgin that gave 'birth' to the fleshly component of Jesus Christ; as predicted.
The Bible that Rome gave to the world shows NOTHING of her 'help' with ANYTHING.
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