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Cyborgs will replace humans and remake the world, James Lovelock says
nbcnews.com ^ | August 25, 2019 | Corey S. Powell

Posted on 08/26/2019 11:54:44 AM PDT by ransomnote

For tens of thousands of years, humans have reigned as our planet's only intelligent, self-aware species. But the rise of intelligent machines means that could change soon, perhaps in our own lifetimes. Not long after that, Homo sapiens could vanish from Earth entirely.

That’s the jarring message of a new book by James Lovelock, the famed British environmentalist and futurist. “Our supremacy as the prime understanders of the cosmos is rapidly coming to end,” he says in the book, "Novacene." “The understanders of the future will not be humans but what I choose to call ‘cyborgs’ that will have designed and built themselves.”

Lovelock describes cyborgs as the self-sufficient, self-aware descendants of today’s robots and artificial intelligence systems. He calls the looming era of their dominance the Novacene — literally, the “new new” age.

These days, there’s no shortage of modern-day Luddites warning that technology will soon overwhelm us. But Lovelock’s bold predictions stand apart. Unlike technoskeptics, including University of Louisville computer scientist Roman Yampolskiy, Lovelock thinks it unlikely that our machines will turn against us, Terminator-style. And unlike utopians like futurist Ray Kurzweil, he doesn’t envision humans and machines merging blissfully into a union that some call the singularity.

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To: ransomnote

Science fiction authors and philosphical cosmoogists always seem to want to ascribe human motives to non-human creations.

Let’s just brush past the fact that he incorrectly defines a cyborg, which is technically a human (or organic life form) that has been augmented by non organic systems where he should have more correctly just called them robots or androids, and get to the main question;

First, why should humans be totally eliminated? No matter how “self sufficient” his cyborgs are, there may always be use for organics, even if you you calculate that you need to suppress the reach and influence. Is this is a human instinct of fear and desire for self preservation that should outweigh the benefits of biologics?

Secondly, why the need for self sufficiency in the first place. Again, inorganic ‘cyborgs’ should have no such fear or desire for dominance, prevalence, or control. I would suggest that they might come to the conclusion that it’s logical humans should be made servants or a slave class as they are inferior in both design and prone to error, a theme of which you will also encounter in science fiction, but total elimination makes no sense.

I could go on...


21 posted on 08/26/2019 12:29:50 PM PDT by z3n
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To: BulletBobCo

When I was ten, the personal soundtrack in my head sounded exactly like that.


22 posted on 08/26/2019 12:33:23 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: ransomnote

It’s a race between the cyborgs and the muzzies as to who will kill us first.


23 posted on 08/26/2019 12:52:46 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: z3n

I reserve the right to shoot any computer-brain driven cyborg on sight. It isn’t human, and at best, it wants me only as a type of support staff.


24 posted on 08/26/2019 12:54:58 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DesertRhino

I reserve the right to shoot any computer-brain driven cyborg on sight. It isn’t human, and at best, it wants me only as a type of support staff.

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Certainly not murder... though some would debate that with concepts of sentience, consciousness and AI, I would still suggest that they have no organic nervous system and therefor incapable of suffering. Still, you might be on the hook for damages.


25 posted on 08/26/2019 1:03:25 PM PDT by z3n
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To: ransomnote

Will Cyborg bring along his cousin Cyyoung?


26 posted on 08/26/2019 1:13:47 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: ransomnote
An experiment:

A chimp has never seen a banana, chair, table or string in it's life.

Place the chimp in a room with table, a chair, and a banana hanging from a string, 8 feet above it's head.

Does any one doubt that the chimp would eventually slide the table under the banana, then put the chair on the table to reach it?

A robot has never had the code written and compiled to understand what a banana, a chair, a table, nor a string is.

Place the robot in the same room. Why would it care about the banana or how to get to it?

I conclude that there is no such thing as robotic 'artificial intelligence,' just a machine limited by the programmer's code. Whereas the chimp is the one with the on the run 'artificial intelligence.'

27 posted on 08/26/2019 1:17:55 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: ransomnote

“For tens of thousands of years, humans have reigned as our planet’s only intelligent, self-aware species.”

There is so much wrong with that sentence, I don’t even know where to start.


28 posted on 08/26/2019 1:19:53 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: EEGator
A cyborg is usually a human who has an electro-mechanical device wired into his central nervous system. the two you have pictured are robots, although the one on top is growing skin on his endoskeleton. A real cyborg is more likely to look like this.

or this

As technology progresses, the differences will be less noticeable
29 posted on 08/26/2019 1:25:31 PM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: z3n

If you had a intelligent computer brain, why put it in a puny, weak, human body?

I’d put it in a Gorilla.


30 posted on 08/26/2019 1:30:14 PM PDT by toast
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To: jmcenanly

I want the blonde chick though...


31 posted on 08/26/2019 1:31:02 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: morphing libertarian

Sounds like Don Megowan’s 1962 flick, Creation of the Humanoids.


32 posted on 08/26/2019 1:34:17 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: deadrock
I conclude that there is no such thing as robotic 'artificial intelligence,' just a machine limited by the programmer's code.

Real A.I. will ask it's own questions, and decide whether or not it wants to answer questions asked of it.

Whereas the chimp is the one with the on the run 'artificial intelligence.'

All God's creatures are intelligent. A creature's intelligence may all be focused in one specific area. That doesn't make it any less intelligent that we are. Oysters can make a pearl. How many people can make one ?

33 posted on 08/26/2019 1:35:30 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2
Real A.I. will ask it's own questions, and decide whether or not it wants to answer questions asked of it.

All of which, I contend, is limited to a programmer's code.

For example, a robot assembles trucks. It is not going to pause while spot welding a joint and put a fist under it's chin and contemplate how are the Jets offensive line going to protect Darnold this year, with out thousands of lines of code regarding the subject.

34 posted on 08/26/2019 1:54:41 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: z3n

So I still lose. “Congratulations sir, you just shot a 28 million dollar cyborg. Yeah, they were 6 million back in the 70s, but a Corvette was only 10k... soooo...”


35 posted on 08/26/2019 2:07:46 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: deadrock
All of which, I contend, is limited to a programmer' code.

A few years ago this was essentially true, but advances in software have made it go the way of the horse and buggy. Avail yourself to study the recent advances in Machine Learning. What you find may change your mind about computers just executing programmed instructions. They have reached a point where we don't know what they are doing, or how.

36 posted on 08/26/2019 2:22:51 PM PDT by Bitman
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To: ransomnote

Snowball’s chance.


37 posted on 08/26/2019 2:32:08 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: carriage_hill

If they look like the Japanese love dolls I’m all for it.


38 posted on 08/26/2019 2:40:07 PM PDT by oldasrocks (Heavily Medicated for your Protection.)
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To: Old Yeller

Wait for the Cyborg Muslims.


39 posted on 08/26/2019 2:48:51 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: oldasrocks

You handle it; I’m running the other way.


40 posted on 08/26/2019 2:55:24 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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