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Dems Falling Into Another Trump Trap on Birthright Citizenship
Vanity | Expat Canuck

Posted on 08/21/2019 4:48:10 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck

The birthright citizenship comments by President Trump are being met with the expected outrage by the media and Democrats (same thing, I know). He continues to play them like a cheap fiddle. They’re outraged that he would dare to upend the 14 amendment of the constitution. How dare he!! Who does he think he is, a king??!!!

After being on record defending the constitution, they are forced to show themselves for the hypocrites they are, yet once again, because of... the 2nd amendment.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: anchorbabies; birthright; citizenship; trumpillegals
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To: mlo
Obama was born in the US

No proof of that.

21 posted on 08/21/2019 6:00:27 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Boomer

In any case never ever, ever forget that the lady that controlled access to the records vault in Hawaii that supposedly has Obama’s original birth certificate was mysteriously killed in a helicopter crash. All passengers except her survived. Hope my memory is correct.


22 posted on 08/21/2019 6:01:20 PM PDT by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: mlo

So were Indians, but before 1924 those born under tribal jurisdiction on reservations were not even CITIZENS of any sort.

Even being born in the US does not necessarily make you an Article II, section one, clause 5, Natural born Citizen eligible to be POTUS.


23 posted on 08/21/2019 6:02:18 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

You’re mostly correct, except it was an airplane.
She was alive when she exited the plane and got in the water.


24 posted on 08/21/2019 6:06:11 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: mlo
"Obama was born in the US..."

And...you know this how?

Is this a ROLCON?

26 posted on 08/21/2019 6:11:44 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: ExpatCanuck

Not analogois of course in that the 14th Amendment neither in plain language nor from intent at the time it was written grants birthright citizenship for the children of noncitizens


28 posted on 08/21/2019 6:21:17 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Interesting legal point in tht article, which, if widely understood, could be considered to apply today:

“In Mississippi v. President Andrew Johnson, (4 Wall. 475-502), where the suit sought to enjoin

the President of the United States from enforcing provisions of the Reconstruction Acts, the U.S. Supreme Court held that the President cannot be enjoined because for the Judicial Department of the government to attempt to enforced the performance of the duties by the President might be justly characterized, in the language of Chief Justice Marshall, as “an absurd and excessive extravagance.” The Court further said that if the Court granted the injunction against enforcement of the Reconstruction Acts, and if the President refused obedience, it is needless to observe that the Court is without power to enforce its process.”


30 posted on 08/21/2019 6:29:37 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: mlo

You are wrong about your example. Obama was born in the US, so a natural born citizen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Not so fast. The evidence does not support what you are claiming. Or have you seen his Birth certificate and underlying documentation?
And “born in the US” IS NOT the same as “natural born citizen”.
BTW - your grammar and punctuation are quite good. Logic is not your strong point.


32 posted on 08/21/2019 6:39:52 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Dual citizenship is not illegal in the US.

I personally know a man who is a dual citizen of the US and Taiwan. His parents are both green card holders, though not US citizens. He became a US citizen by being born on US soil.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/Advice-about-Possible-Loss-of-US-Nationality-Dual-Nationality/Dual-Nationality.html

“U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one nationality or another. “ Nothing about dual citizens being ineligible for President.


33 posted on 08/21/2019 6:47:27 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: Norman Knight

First time I read that explanation.
No sale.
Your note does not talk to the distinction between Natural born Citizen versus regular Citizen, for me.

Governments can pass laws and tests to establish a framework to extend Citizenship to folks from around the Globe.
Governments cannot extend Natural born Citizenship to someone.
You are Natural born, or not.
An American Father and his Canadian wife travel to Spain.
Women gives birth.
The baby is lucky, as the baby can apply for America,Canada and Spanish Citizenship.

Unfortunately, that baby CANNOT be a Natural born Citizen of any Country.
If a baby is born on Canada soil to Canada Citizen mom and dad, we have no discussion, that baby is a Natural born Citizen. Nobody can craft laws demonstrating said baby is a citizen of some other country.


34 posted on 08/21/2019 7:08:44 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: FormerFRLurker

Those with split nationalities are PRECISELY who the founders were excluding, they wanted prevent foreign influence on the C-I-C.

http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html


35 posted on 08/21/2019 7:11:56 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: FormerFRLurker

From your tagline, I deduce you are a fan of the Cubanadian, which would explain why you want the natural born citizen clause eviscerated.


37 posted on 08/21/2019 7:17:58 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Norman Knight

Okay, someone in the past had one word for our adjective natural, and a second word for the contra concept, not natural.

An adjective describes or modifies a noun. An adjective provides further information about a noun.

Natural born Citizen.
Which of the three words is the noun.
What further information concerning the noun is the word Natural providing?
What further information do the words Not Natural provide about that noun.

The Constitution allows any old Citizen to hold Federal office. The Constitution limits the Presidency to Natural born Citizen.

For me, all of your material speaks to simple Citizenship

No sale


39 posted on 08/21/2019 7:30:35 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Steven Tyler

I think (?) that guy is on our side, he just has a convoluted way of arguing the point.


40 posted on 08/21/2019 7:48:03 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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