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To: Monrose72

Wish him all the luck. But an amendment to the Constitution is the only way around birth right citizenship.


5 posted on 08/21/2019 10:27:19 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe

It appears he thinks he can do it by Executive Order


14 posted on 08/21/2019 10:34:40 AM PDT by RummyChick ("Pills, money .. this city is wicked. Your best friend will kill you here." Smoove about Baltimore)
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To: Bull Snipe
But an amendment to the Constitution is the only way around birth right citizenship.

It's in the constitution? I would think a simple law would take care of this.

19 posted on 08/21/2019 10:36:14 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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“Wish him all the luck. But an amendment to the Constitution is the only way around birth right citizen.”

Not true. If you look at the 14th Amendment closely it does not grant birthright citizenship and its authors clearly stated so in congressional debat that is on the record and the Supreme Court has and must continue to give weight to those statements.

If President Trump changes policy and is sued over it there is a chance that the Supreme Court could decide in his favor.

29 posted on 08/21/2019 10:41:44 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Freeper formerly known as WMarshal.......)
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To: Bull Snipe
Nope.

Just overturn the dicta on one Supreme Court ruling.

There is nothing in the Constitution that says anybody born here is a automatic citizen.

Just as there is nothing about a "wall between church and state" and a bunch of other things they love to add in.

39 posted on 08/21/2019 10:46:32 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Human beings don't behave rationally. We rationalize our behavior.)
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To: Bull Snipe

“But an amendment to the Constitution is the only way around birth right citizenship.”

14th amendment:

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof...”

“subject to the jurisdiction thereof”

Looks like it precludes what is commonly called “birthright
citizenship.”

Birthright citizenship is a term that has been hi-jacked to refer to people entering illegally and giving birth on American soil. The birth is due to an illegal act and not as a result of due process establishing jurisdiction.

I was entitled to birthright citizenship, for example, because my parents are citizens.

The idea that the writers of the 14th amendment ever dreamed that their words would be twisted to mean what is claimed now would make them roll over in their graves, especially since they ruled it out in commentary on the law they had written.

I think it was about 1927 before American Indians were given citizenship to the United States even though they had been born in the land area long before we were. The 14th amendment was adopted about 1865 (for former slaves).


81 posted on 08/21/2019 12:32:42 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Bull Snipe

Wish him all the luck. But an amendment to the Constitution is the only way around birth right citizenship.”””

I do NOT think an amendment is necessary.

The 14th Amendment has been bastardized with wrong interpretations for many years.

The 14th Amendment was meant to make children of slaves USA citizens. It was passed & ratified after the Civil War , in the 1800’s. It is NOT a new law. Look at the exact working & the events of the time in which it was passed and see what the 14th is meant to be doing.

It NEVER was meant for invaders to this country to whelp their kid on USA soil & grant that baby automatic citizenship.

It was wrong the first time it happened, and it has been even MORE wrong ever since.


85 posted on 08/21/2019 1:49:09 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Bull Snipe

Wish him all the luck. But an amendment to the Constitution is the only way around birth right citizenship.”””

I do NOT think an amendment is necessary.

The 14th Amendment has been bastardized with wrong interpretations for many years.

The 14th Amendment was meant to make children of slaves USA citizens. It was passed & ratified after the Civil War , in the 1800’s. It is NOT a new law. Look at the exact wording & the events of the time in which it was passed and see what the 14th is meant to be doing.

It NEVER was meant for invaders to this country to whelp their kid on USA soil & grant that baby automatic citizenship.

It was wrong the first time it happened, and it has been even MORE wrong ever since.


86 posted on 08/21/2019 1:50:12 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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