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To: mewzilla

.357 is effective, but it does have a kick. I think it was designed by Elmer Keith. This sounds like a Mistake. The difference is penetration. It is certainly arguable that it is the best pistol cartridge ever made. In a crisis, do you want to stop an attacker with 1 round, through a car door, or shoot 10 times and maybe hope for the best? Stupid.

What’s especially nice about the .357 weapons (revolvers) is they will chamber .38 special, useful for training as the kick is less, and the expense. Depending on powder load and grain size one weapon can scale from very light to full bore “don’t even think about it.”


14 posted on 08/02/2019 5:31:52 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Freedom4US

Isn’t the Sig 357 an entirely different cartridge?


20 posted on 08/02/2019 5:36:42 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism: intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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To: Freedom4US

We uare talking about the .357 Sig here not the magnum.


22 posted on 08/02/2019 5:37:02 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Freedom4US

This isn’t .357 Magnum, it’s 357SIG. It’s basically a .40SW round necked down to 9mm and powered up to approximate .357 Magnum velocities. However, the case neck is very short and bullet setback is/was very common. I blew up two SIGs because of this. Now they have a Lee factory crimp die that helps solve much of that, but I think it’s still a flawed cartridge.


25 posted on 08/02/2019 5:37:42 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Freedom4US
".357 is effective, but it does have a kick. I think it was designed by Elmer Keith...What’s especially nice about the .357 weapons (revolvers) is they will chamber .38 special, useful for training as the kick is less, and the expense."

Different .357. The SS has used the .357 Sig, which is an autoloading round based on the .40 S&W case necked down to .357.


29 posted on 08/02/2019 5:39:17 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Freedom4US

Kick and trigger pull issues can be addressed with range time, can’t they?

The most advanced handgun in the world is no use in the hands of someone who lacks the training to hit what he/she aims at.


38 posted on 08/02/2019 5:43:44 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds)
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To: Freedom4US

Is there a difference in cost per round? I mention this because, fact is, when the government is supplying its people with a lot of something, cost of use matters. I remember those early 60’s dodges and Plymouth marketed for city and town police work that had two speed automatic transmissions. They were “good enough”.

I suppose the idea is that 9mm is “good enough” and the cartridges are cheap. And if someone is not a marksman, five bullets are better than one really well placed one - when you may be hard pressed to really well place ANY of them.


40 posted on 08/02/2019 5:44:14 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: Freedom4US

Glock will be easier to control for all the female agents they decided make wonderful bodyguards


42 posted on 08/02/2019 5:47:55 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Freedom4US

The glock. 357 is not the magnum. The. 357 is just a necked down 40.


59 posted on 08/02/2019 5:59:13 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: Freedom4US

They would be referring to the 357 sig round which is a 40 s&w necked down to 9 mm. Glock also produces pistols in this caliber.


108 posted on 08/02/2019 7:01:31 AM PDT by rebel25 (GOD, Family, guns, and duck hunting, everything else is just noise.)
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