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My Apartments Above Retail Stores Proposal
Brian Griffin | 07/30.2109 | Brian Griffin

Posted on 07/30/2019 11:05:25 AM PDT by Brian Griffin

Many retail employees are having a hard time making ends meet. Leftists have proposed raising wages to $15/hour, and sometimes have done so, but such wages are unrealistically expensive for most retail employers.

If retail stores had restricted occupancy apartments above their selling floor, retail employees could live in these and not need to pay for a car and liability insurance. Residential restricted occupancy is sometimes found in English agricultural regions to keep housing affordable for people working in agriculture.

Retail store residency would have additional benefits of reducing road congestion and CO2 emissions, increasing employee reliability, the amount of employee free time and the number of people able to live in an metropolitan area without overcrowding its roads.

Employees might get paid $4/hour plus usage of the apartment plus $.01/hour for each square foot of their apartment less than 600.

In some cases there might be sliding wall system in an apartment to make for either one large bedroom or two small bedrooms.

To fund adequate Social Security benefits for the employee, an added $1/hour FICA tax might be levied on the employee.

The apartment might be valued at $700/month for income taxation, welfare and health insurance subsidy purposes.

There might be a 10-day grace period to live in the apartment after quitting or getting fired from a job. There might also be a waiting period of up to 10 days to move into such an apartment.

Whether or not specific apartments are employer furnished and their exact size would be left to employment market forces.

Employees not needing or currently getting an employer apartment would simply work for the usual wages and benefits.

Excess retail store apartments might made available to nearby restaurants and their employees on a similar basis.


TOPICS: AMERICA - The Right Way!!; Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: affordablehousing; retail; wage
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To: Tammy8
Back in the 1980s, my brother leased an office space with a used car dealer who had a service bay where he could work on and prep cars for sale. Brother was happy because he had steady employment. Dealer was happy because he had a reliable tenant and employee with whom he would split some commissions as brother was also good at finding and fixing good used cars and finding customers.

In the back of my brother's office space, there was a little kitchenette type room divided by curtains with a hot plate, fridge, washer/dryer, commode and shower, so no need to commute either. When closing time rolled around, he would lock up, eat and get ready for bed by folding down the couch in the office. Worked nice until one night the cops came knocking and told him the area was zoned commercial and he wasn't allowed to sleep over.

We can't prove it, but suspect the visit was prompted by a competitor complaint.

41 posted on 07/30/2019 11:39:02 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Brian Griffin

$4.00 an hour ? LOL...

That won’t even pay for internet and phone charges for the month...

Most retail workers are young and entitled....

$4.00 an hour would be an insult


42 posted on 07/30/2019 11:39:14 AM PDT by Popman
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To: Tired of Taxes

this is like an apartment complex manager getting free rent.


43 posted on 07/30/2019 11:45:36 AM PDT by ronniesgal (so I wonder what his FR handle is????)
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To: trisham

Tennessee Ernie Ford


44 posted on 07/30/2019 11:45:48 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: central_va

“Adjusted for inflation the 1969 minimum wage of $1.60 would be $11.60 in today’s dollars. So $15/hr is not ‘outrageous’.”

Walk inside a mall that’s not in an affluent Washington, DC area.

Business is about a fifth of what it was twenty years ago at the mall nearest me here in Florida.

Even the leftist New York State Legislature knows $15/hour is generally unrealistic for most of Upstate New York.


45 posted on 07/30/2019 11:46:07 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Retailers are free to try this idea. Anybody is free to try this idea. I think it has some merit, as long as it isn’t compelled by government edict or indirect favoritism.

By the way... as far as I know, the big theme parks do not have on-site housing for their large numbers of summer employees. Many of these employees come from foreign countries. I’d think that if anybody did the hire-the-employee and house-the-employee thing, that it’d be these big theme parks. ... I dunno.


46 posted on 07/30/2019 11:49:52 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Tennessee Ernie Ford, one of the great joys of the fifties. He was funny and had a great voice. If you are too young to remember check out his big song “Sixteen Tons” about working as a coal miner.


47 posted on 07/30/2019 11:51:19 AM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: mbarker12474

Thanks, mbarker!


48 posted on 07/30/2019 11:52:58 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ETCM

“Back in the 70’s and 80’s....”

In 1978 I paid $87/month to live on affluent North Charles Street in Baltimore.

In 1980, I paid $263/month to live in a nearly new apartment in Frederick, Maryland.

In 1981, I paid $346/month to live in a nearly new apartment in Reston, Virginia, ~18 miles west of Washington, DC.

Rents have soared since.

The ability of most retail operations to pay wages has collapsed because of Amazon.


49 posted on 07/30/2019 11:53:19 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Web e-commerce killed the mall not the min wage!! LOL!


50 posted on 07/30/2019 11:55:58 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Tammy8

Best Italian family deli I’ve ever been to was a an old house converted to store below and living quarters upstairs.


51 posted on 07/30/2019 11:56:21 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Tired of Taxes

I had the same initial reaction as you but after further thought, it could be quite awkward if the employee was to quit or even be fired. Nothing like having a disgruntled ex-employee living right over your business!


52 posted on 07/30/2019 11:58:46 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: BenLurkin

We could even have a name for folks who were so cared for. I propose “serfs”.


53 posted on 07/30/2019 12:00:18 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Popman

“$4.00 an hour ? LOL...

“That won’t even pay for internet and phone charges for the month...”

You won’t get a “free” apartment if you only work two hours a week.

Many stores offer free Wi-Fi (which usually is snail slow).

My library system has Wi-Fi.

Stores could do what my library does (after business hours).

My local buses have Wi-Fi.

Obamaphone service is available. One plan offers 1GB data per month too.


54 posted on 07/30/2019 12:01:56 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: DoodleDawg

“Why not put in a company store for groceries while you’re at it and pay the serfs in company script?”

The largest supply of low skill work in the USA, local retail, is collapsing.

Welfare rolls will need to expand unless action is taken and soon.

I propose action.


55 posted on 07/30/2019 12:05:00 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

the used to do this above department stores when they were a new fangled thing. Dorms for men and women.


56 posted on 07/30/2019 12:07:51 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Brian Griffin

Trailer for sale or rent, rooms to let, fifty cents.
No phone, no pool, no pets, I ain’t got no cigarettes
Ah, but, two hours of pushin’ broom
Buys an eight by twelve four-bit room
I’m a man of means by no means, king of the road...


57 posted on 07/30/2019 12:08:33 PM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Brian Griffin
1.) Retail space is rarely owned by the Retailer. They are renting it.

2. The concept that you are proposing is part of Agenda 21, and it is called an Urban Village design. My local community is embracing it with Retail on ground level and then apartments above. However, the housing is not designed for low income. There is also extremely limited parking.

3. The premise of these designs is NOT to make housing more affordable, but rather to eliminate the ability to have personal transportation. Stores are all boutique in size, because you basically need a grocery store every 2-3 blocks, and you need to change your life so that you plan on going to the grocery store every day (you can only buy as much as you can carry).

4. If you need something outside of your neighborhood, you are expected to take a bus or some other form of public transportation.
58 posted on 07/30/2019 12:12:59 PM PDT by RainMan (rainman)
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To: Brian Griffin

What part of this idea are you not getting?

If it was a viable concept, it already would be happening...on a much larger scale...


59 posted on 07/30/2019 12:15:12 PM PDT by Popman
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To: ArtDodger

Still common in Japan and other Asian countries.”

Asian store owners do it here, too, but with their multi-generational families living there. One of the reasons many Asians are prosperous, they combine living spaces.

Grandma can tend the small kids and sometimes pinch hit at the counter, while mom and dad do most of the store work. Teenage kid lives there and works in the store when not in school.


60 posted on 07/30/2019 12:19:30 PM PDT by angry elephant (My MAGA cap is from a rally in Washingon state in May 2016)
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