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One of my hobbies is 19th century history. The Industrial Revolution gave birth to out modern world but it was a very difficult labor. There is a large amount of evidence, from estimates of labor income to height measurements, that people were worse off for the first century of the revolution, say from 1750. A major driver of societal unrest in Europe was from the effects of industrialization. Industrial workers provided a lot of momentum for the Revolutions of 1848. 1848 in a sense represented a turning point as there is a lot of evidence the working class started to enjoy the fruits of industrialization in higher wages and like from that point forward. Perhaps AI/robotics might deliver a better world but it is going to be a rough ride getting there.
1 posted on 07/28/2019 4:20:26 AM PDT by C19fan
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One thing robotics WILL do, is negate much of the advantage of having Third World people to work in your sweatshops.

China is very concerned, hence this CNN story.


2 posted on 07/28/2019 4:24:53 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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Science fiction movies aren’t science fiction...they’re roadmaps. Think “I, Robot”.


3 posted on 07/28/2019 4:29:14 AM PDT by moovova
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I read this article, it was an attack on Trump for using tariffs. The article pretends that the reason for the opioid crisis was because of robots instead of that lovely healthcare law. It also fails to address reality on the job losses due to propping up the developing world.


4 posted on 07/28/2019 4:39:01 AM PDT by BlackAdderess
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“The Luddites, who smashed machinery during the Industrial Revolution, were right to fight back. Much like today’s factory workers, they weren’t going to benefit from new technology.”

Fast forward a few years and the craftsmen who hand-darned socks while living in hovels with nothing in the way of amenities had taken jobs maintaining and feeding the sock machines. They lived in houses with chamber pots, owned machine made cutlery and tea pots, from which they could pour the newest drink, tea. Yes, there was a huge disruption from the “comfortable” status quo. But that disruption drove even more change. People immigrated to get a better life. People took jobs that stretched their minds and improved their living standards. It wasn’t all roses, by all means.

Make no mistake, striking dock workers are trying to keep things the way they were to maintain socialist benefits like free health care and defined benefit pensions, both of which have already disappeared for most of us. They are, because of their contracts, hugely overpaid and that is driving innovation and AI to replace them just like the threat of $15/hour minimum wages drove the development of the automated McDonald’s.

Automation is one reason why America should stop immigration by unskilled, illiterate people. They already have limited chances for success and mostly become a burden on the public charge. America needs innovation to keep ahead of the other world’s powers, like China. America is currently at full employment but as innovation and automation take effect workers at the bottom must either learn new skills or give up. Whether they adapt or not will be a function of their inherent IQ. (Among other factors.)


5 posted on 07/28/2019 4:43:25 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Too many regulations make humans too expensive to hire vs advancing technology.


7 posted on 07/28/2019 4:49:38 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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Here at the local Walmart, they put in about 24 self-serve cash registers. My daughter, who’s a registrar there, might get moved. However, even the self-serve need attendants to help some of the customers, verify your age if you buy alcohol, etc.


8 posted on 07/28/2019 4:56:39 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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I am looking forward to fully automated fast food outlets. No attitude, no contaminating food because they want to demonstrate their hatred of another group that day and no missed parts of the order. Machines really are better.


10 posted on 07/28/2019 5:03:24 AM PDT by Truth29
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I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.


14 posted on 07/28/2019 5:22:18 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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America is going to need some form of UBI (Universal Basic Income) to keep the peace in our streets and neighborhoods.

This time, it really is different.

Robots and AI software are now reaching into every business in America.

They are going take many, many more jobs than they will create.


16 posted on 07/28/2019 5:35:44 AM PDT by zeestephen
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Any change is always a rough ride.


22 posted on 07/28/2019 6:05:00 AM PDT by null and void (The Left isn't banning "Hate Speech", they are banning speech they hate. BIG difference.)
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There is no more pampered loathsome group of lazy slobs than dock workers. I may offend a few here but tough. Replace them with machines.


25 posted on 07/28/2019 6:16:50 AM PDT by Dennis M.
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Gee, offshoring to the 3rd killed more jobs and small towns across the red state America than robotics will ever destroy. Those jobs didn’t “disappear” the were shipped out. If that totally socio-economic destructive process didn’t cause a revolt then nothing will I guess. This is a BIG NOTHING BURGER.


27 posted on 07/28/2019 6:22:56 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Fast food - robots
Ag - robots
Truck driving - robots
Construction - robots

That’s exaaaactly what we have illegal aliens for, now.

If they’re ALREADY heavily over-taxing state resources now, how will it be when all their jobs are robots?

They will nearly all be on welfare, some of them several times over.

In Calif you could have 30% unemployment, maybe 50% or more.

The really important thing is the wall, and then to start kicking the illegals out.


34 posted on 07/28/2019 6:37:56 AM PDT by gaijin
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If we allow those who will not, or can not learn, to control the pace of technological evolution, we would still be walking everywhere and witch doctors would be our masters.


35 posted on 07/28/2019 6:47:15 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Humɐns
40 posted on 07/28/2019 7:37:54 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (#Dregs #DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe #BuildIt)
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Every job is at risk. Even doctors. I see a medical booth in the near future. You step in, the door closes and the checkup begins. Sonic, inferred, air pressure, x-ray etc.


42 posted on 07/28/2019 8:22:17 AM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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getting rid of $100K+ a year dock workers will be a good start
44 posted on 07/28/2019 8:52:44 AM PDT by Chode (Send bachelors, and come heavily armed!)
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I agree that there is a possible threat. Take, for example, the bots of Ilona Mask who beat the people in Dota 2. The bots learn, accumulate knowledge and form their own intellect. I often play Dota 2 and even bet on [url=https://esportzbet.com/dota2-betting-sites] https://esportzbet.com/dota2-betting-sites[/url] and watch this whole situation. I’ll tell you what - it is very likely that we will soon end the same way as in the movie “I am a robot”.


49 posted on 07/28/2019 11:48:04 PM PDT by garrynewman (my reply)
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Wir sind die Roboter!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHEoMpMvz7A


51 posted on 07/29/2019 9:09:34 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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