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‘Aspirin Is Not As Helpful As We Thought’(TR)
CBS 3 PHILLY ^ | 22 JULY 2019 | STEPHANIE STAHL

Posted on 07/22/2019 4:58:43 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

PHILADELPHIA (CBS) — Millions should stop taking aspirin for heart health. A new study says for healthy people, aspirin should not be taken to prevent heart attacks or strokes. For years, many have been told aspirin is heart healthy, but this research says it may be harmful for some people.

It’s now only recommended for certain patients and always only under the direction of a doctor.

Seventy-year-old Margaret Ragucci suffered a stroke a few weeks ago.

“I’m sitting there watching television, go to get up and my leg wouldn’t work,” she said. “I was in the three-hour window for somebody having a stroke. They were able to administer the medication and I walked out of there.”

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To: Grampa Dave

2nd sentence. This study does not apply to you.


81 posted on 07/22/2019 8:27:55 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: stormhill
Only ~15% of strokes are hemorrhagic. The vast majority are ischemic, and thus daily aspirin in those with atherosclerotic cerebrovascular disease is a very, very reasonable preventative treatment. As regards hemorrhagic strokes, uncontrolled HTN is a significant risk factor, as are cerebrovascular aneurysms and arteriovenous malformations - which can both be genetically based.

The bottom line in my view is what I was referring to previously, which is that treatment needs to be decided on an individual basis, by a thinking and reasoned physician, and NOT on the basis of an algorithm defined by a flawed statistical study. There is no such thing as a perfect algorithm when you are dealing with biological diversity.

82 posted on 07/22/2019 8:36:40 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: waredbird
My father had 5 bypasses and was told he had no more leg veins to rob that were good enough and to go home and get his affairs in order. He was 59. He found out about chelation and died at 85. He stopped taking nitro and lived an active life. He died in his sleep peacefully.

I took 30 treatments but was not diagnosed with any heart trouble other than tachycardia and high blood pressure. My blood pressure is fine now and I haven't had a tachycardia attack in months. I'm 68 now.

Talking to other patients, you will hear all kinds of miracles with other people. Stories of diabetic feet that were saved from amputation as close as a week from the surgery. A man whose family were all dead before 50 with heart disease had his attack at 38 and started the treatments and has no blockages now. He's swore to take the treatments forever. A Lyme disease patient was wheelchair bound and couldn't speak anymore I saw myself get out of her chair and speaks again. 80-90% are treated for heart troubles, but it seems to help all sorts of maladies.

If you read the stuff that calls it "quackery" you can spend your life dying in pain or you can get fixed. It's your choice.

83 posted on 07/22/2019 8:51:53 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: neverevergiveup
Only ~15% of strokes are hemorrhagic

While admittedly a small percentage of cases, if you happen to fall in this category, this is 100% as far as you're concerned.

That said, you're position on the need to decide treatment on an individual basis is spot on.
Trouble for me has been finding competent doctors who inspire trust. Last cardiologist I consulted wanted to operate without even bothering to verify a diagnosis. I declined treatment and have not regretted it.

84 posted on 07/22/2019 9:13:27 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Cayene pepper...capsules
1 morning...1 evening


85 posted on 07/22/2019 11:17:16 PM PDT by Maranatha7757
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To: x

Back in the early 70s they said apples were bad for you because of alar. I’ve ignored every “health” bulletin ever since. I’ve lost count of the times coffee has been good/bad for you.
I regularly consume: whisky, bbq, oysters, steak, bacon, butter, potatos, icecream, whisky, hamburgers, cheeseburgers, tacos, eggs, hotdogs, lobster, pork, fried chicken, pumpkin pie, apple pie, coconut custard pie, whisky, donuts, cheetos, soda, cotton candy, fried bread, smithfield ham with buttermilk biscuit and redeye gravy, and whisky. I’m 73, 6’3” weigh 210 lbs., bp is usually around 110/68. Doc says the ticker is good with no signs arterial schlerosis. The only thing the doc warned me about was using to many commas. I drink a little whisky to keep things clear. I lovelife and all kinds of people. God gave us all these wonderful things to enjoy. We should honor and praise him and enjoy his bounty.
Don’t draw your pistol unless you aim to use it. If you have to, draw quick and sboot straight.
In God we Trust - All others pay cash.
Life’s simple, keep it that way.


86 posted on 07/23/2019 3:52:01 AM PDT by .44 Special (Tiamid Buarsh)
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To: catnipman

I will take my Plavix another 6 months post stent.

Lifetime for my low dose aspirin and my Eliquis for another heart issue.


87 posted on 07/23/2019 6:51:00 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Demographics will determine, who wins control of America.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
Beer is good.

I like Beer.

88 posted on 07/23/2019 6:56:17 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: HighSierra5

89 posted on 07/23/2019 9:08:35 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Yaelle
He fell and hit his head, and aspirin made his brain bleed not stop.

Wow, Yaelle, that's terrible. So sorry! Do you know, was he taking the mini 81mg or a whole 250mg regular aspirin daily?

90 posted on 07/23/2019 9:11:38 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Grampa Dave
Now that I am over 80 and my wife is pushing 80, we as conservatives are prime target for the liberals and their docs like Ezekiel Emanuel!

I had several relatives live to their late 90s — 96, 98 and 99, to be precise. One of them suffered terribly in her 99th year due to a preventable condition that should have been trreated when she was 80, but even then, doctors AND HER SONS were "deciding" not to bother with ab older person's complaints. So she suffered unnecessarily for 19 years and had unnecessary pain and fear in her final year when she was too fragile to bounce back. Yet she still had her mental skills, including wit and humor until developing sepsis from an untreated, infected bunion.

91 posted on 07/23/2019 9:28:45 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: waredbird; chuckles

Is chelation expensive? I don’t think my plan covers it. But I worked with metals and volatile chemicals for 20+ years.


92 posted on 07/23/2019 9:30:37 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I’ve been on the low-dose regimen for years. At this stage, I’ll just keep on taking them for the same reason I continue taking a daily multivitamin, which most will tell you is unnecessary ... it can’t hurt.


93 posted on 07/23/2019 10:13:18 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: Grampa Dave

“Eliquis for another heart issue.”

afib?


94 posted on 07/23/2019 10:46:03 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

Yep.

You look at me harshly or too long, and I bruise.

I was on Pradaxa for about a year. It is a crappy drug, literally.

Eliquis has minimal side effects, physically and mentally.


95 posted on 07/23/2019 12:20:16 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Demographics will determine, who wins control of America.)
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To: Albion Wilde

I don’t. I suspect the daily low dose. He was a healthy guy about 50 and his doctor caused his death. He was on the aspirin for some kind of heart prevention. He was given a new blood pressure Med and a new diuretic. He had complained to his wife that the new bp Med made him feel dizzy sometimes. He complained that this diuretic made him have to pee too often.

He got up in the middle of the night to pee. Must have felt very dizzy. Fell and hit his head on the wood floor. All 3 drugs combined in a deadly way to kill a youngish healthy guy who played tennis every week. He was the greatest guy, too.


96 posted on 07/23/2019 12:23:32 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Grampa Dave

I took the anti-arrhythmic drug Tikosyn for 10 years before it stopped working (it was the only one i could take as my liver couldn’t metabolize the other anti-arrhythmics and they would have accumulated until they stopped my heart if i had taken them). Tikosyn eliminates directly through the kidneys without the need for liver metabolism.

That worked long enough for cryoablation of the pulmonary vein openings in the left atrium to be perfected, and i traveled to phoenix, AZ and had cryoablation done by one of the very top guys in the U.S. doing that procedure, namely Dr. Wilber Su, who’s probably the finest doctor i’ve ever met in my life.


97 posted on 07/23/2019 1:46:30 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Yaelle

Awful thing to have happened—so sorry. Condolences to you and your family members.

Multiple drugs can be very risky. I sometimes double-check with my pharmacist, even after a doc says taking two or more things is ok. MDs seem to know very little about drug interactions, including the other things we might take over the counter, like antihistamines or vitamins, that we don’t even think to mention to the doc. Certain food substances can interact badly with meds, as well. That’s what the pharmacist advice window is for.

It’s worth noting that the daily aspirin alone was not the only thing that contributed to your beloved cousin’s death, for the sake of others considering taking the daily mini dose. And everyone should call their doc immediately if they feel a bad reaction to a prescribed drug. Some you can stop immediately and some you need to taper off.


98 posted on 07/23/2019 4:19:48 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Albion Wilde

Insurance won’t cover it. I paid $160 per treatment. If you have lead poisoning it might be covered, but not for heart disease.


99 posted on 07/23/2019 11:18:29 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles
Insurance won’t cover it. I paid $160 per treatment. If you have lead poisoning it might be covered, but not for heart disease.

Thank you. I was fearing it would be much more. Might be worth a try to see if I perceive a difference in how energy-depleted I feel, having exhausted many other approaches (avoid drinking/smoking, research diet and eat healthy, get enough sleep, take vitamins & minerals, research and fine-tune meds for chronic condition, etc.).

100 posted on 07/24/2019 7:32:53 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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