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Family of 17-Year-Old Girl Killed by Fullerton Officer Files Claim for Damages Against the City
ktla ^ | 07/19/2019

Posted on 07/19/2019 7:29:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: BenLurkin

Hard to imagine this get past the preliminary stage! Pretty obvious this was a train wrecking looking for a place to happen and it is pretty hard to place the blame on the “place”


41 posted on 07/20/2019 5:08:31 AM PDT by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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To: Bommer

“heir attorney told the media that the shooting highlights the need for the nation to do a better job in dealing with people affected by mental illness.”

Sounds to me like the parents should have done a better job of dealing with their kid.


42 posted on 07/20/2019 5:10:55 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: kiryandil

She comes out holding a gun that looks real and gets shot. This is exactly what the cops are dealing with.


43 posted on 07/20/2019 6:34:03 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: BenLurkin

IIRC, California is a comparative negligence state, allowing a jury to access a defendant’s percentage of responsibility for the damages. Thus, if the damages are high enough, even a small percentage of responsibility, say 5%, for example, could make the suit worthwhile, even though it is 95%
nonsense.


44 posted on 07/20/2019 7:37:01 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: kiryandil

Like you, I’m suspicious.

“Replica handgun”? Really? Who carries replica handguns in their car and then points it at a cop?

How many times have cops been prosecuted for tossing drugs into a person’s car or planting “replica handguns”?

I’d like to see a receipt for the purchase of that replica handgun by the girl.

I will withhold judgment until more information is available.

Could be that the girl was just making a lane change and didn’t see the officer’s vehicle; or that the officer made a lane change and hit her car.


45 posted on 07/20/2019 9:03:39 AM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: WASCWatch

LOL

You forgot the Sarc Tag.


46 posted on 07/20/2019 9:07:18 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Socialism is a gateway Ideology.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Sunshine is the only effective treatment for depression. Antidepressants merely mask it by suppressing emotion.Sunshine does not produce suicidal tendencies. I have seen three women, including my daughter, straighten out their depression problems with D3(encapsulated sunshine) supplements and one eventually got over her phobia of sunshine. All three have been depression free for five, nine and eleven years.


47 posted on 07/20/2019 9:39:49 AM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: Do_Tar

I have no idea how she got the ignition key and neither do you. Reports only indicate she took the vehicle without permission. But you’re free to infer anything you like.


48 posted on 07/20/2019 9:58:19 AM PDT by dragnet2 (diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: WASCWatch

Before suggesting it could be the cops fault, there were independent witnesses who stated she exited the vehicle and was pointing the gun right at the cop.


49 posted on 07/20/2019 10:05:47 AM PDT by dragnet2 (diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: WASCWatch; kiryandil
"Replica handgun”? Really? Who carries replica handguns in their car and then points it at a cop?

It's happened quite a bit. Some of you don't seem to be aware of much of anything.

Slain man pointed replica guns at Vancouver police

https://www.koin.com/local/clark-county/slain-man-pointed-replica-guns-at-vancouver-police/

Police: Officer shoots man pointing replica gun at him

https://www.apnews.com/45f2c973b38a4c66a612cb9cd95b1135

50 posted on 07/20/2019 11:06:45 AM PDT by dragnet2 (diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Vendome
"Williams' family said the teenager was on antidepressants..."

Antidepressants have very high risk profiles for adolescents with bipolar disorder. There is no evidence at this point that the young lady was taking any anti-anxiety drugs, most of which are not used for bipolar disorder anyway.

Whatever the underlying illness and cause was, nobody can call the end result a successful treatment of a mentally ill adolescent.

51 posted on 07/20/2019 11:08:40 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: kiryandil
A 17-year-old girl takes a "shooting stance"?

I'm thinking NOT.

Think again. Independent witnesses at the scene stated the same thing, in fact stated the decedent held the gun with both hands, pointing it right at the cop. If that shooting stance doesn't justify getting shot by a cop, nothing does.

52 posted on 07/20/2019 11:28:46 AM PDT by dragnet2 (diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Independent witnesses at the scene stated the same thing, in fact stated the decedent held the gun with both hands, pointing it right at the cop. If that shooting stance doesn't justify getting shot by a cop, nothing does.

As a right-handed shooter, when I take a solid two-handed shooting stance, I lead with my left foot VERY far forward.

53 posted on 07/20/2019 11:56:43 AM PDT by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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To: kiryandil

lol....

Leeme ask ya, if someone was gripping a gun with both hands and pointing the gun right at you, would you not shoot them to save yourself because their shooting stance did not meet your standards or expectations?


54 posted on 07/20/2019 12:15:31 PM PDT by dragnet2 (diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BenLurkin

17 year-olds can rent cars?


55 posted on 07/20/2019 12:17:06 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going no than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Mentally ill people can’t shoot guns?


56 posted on 07/20/2019 12:18:13 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going no than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: dragnet2
Leeme ask ya, if someone was gripping a gun with both hands and pointing the gun right at you, would you not shoot them to save yourself because their shooting stance did not meet your standards or expectations?

I saw the video. It's hard to tell from the stills what is actually going on with her. Her trailing foot was actually up in the air. I might have gotten shot because I would have been laughing.

I didn't really see a good picture of the gun/replica gun. I'll wait until we can get there with all this.

I don't know what the situation on the ground is in Fullerton CA, but this was "confrontation policing" from the word go.

57 posted on 07/20/2019 12:40:38 PM PDT by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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To: dragnet2
BTW - if you think my posts on this are bad, the scumbag @shaunking on Twitter libeled the police officer by saying she was UNARMED, and hasn't retracted as far as I know.

I just want to know a little more about this "replica gun", "confrontation cop" and why it took the Fullerton PD a week to get their ducks in a row.

Lots of interesting questions, but I'm leaning in favor of "good shoot" with a dollop of too-aggressive policing.

58 posted on 07/20/2019 12:46:17 PM PDT by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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To: dragnet2

That helps.


59 posted on 07/20/2019 1:37:40 PM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: kiryandil
I saw the video. It's hard to tell from the stills what is actually going on with her.

It's there. Btw, I'm mentioned half dozen times there are independent witnesses who stated she was gripping the gun with both hands, pointing right at the cop.

Hard to beat video, independent witnesses at the scene, not to mention lots of physical evidence. This was a clear justified shoot if there ever was one.

60 posted on 07/20/2019 1:48:57 PM PDT by dragnet2 (diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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