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To: LibWhacker

Some people think a cat shoved into a box can be both alive and dead at the same time. It is impossible for a logical person to have a conversation with those people.

I operate under the principle that a statement is either true or false, and that there is no middle ground between true and false. There is no basis for common understanding with people who reject that principle, and so it is impossible to talk with them about anything.


4 posted on 07/14/2019 6:09:39 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: I want the USA back

We simply do not know if the cat is alive or dead until we open the box.

I read a story once where a team set up a Schrödinger’s cat experiment, and when they opened the box, found that the cat had disappeared (he did not like being shut into a box).

This article implies that we should be able to predict with high certainty whether the cat will be alive or dead. I don’t see where the uncertainty is being eliminated, just that correction factors are being applied.


9 posted on 07/14/2019 6:30:29 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: I want the USA back

It is a true statement that barring direct observation of data, the cat Might be alive or Might be dead, but it is certainly never true that it can be both.

It is modeling along those lines of thinking, that we are seeing breakthru’s on quantum computing(which is up to 8 Qbits now when last I checked). Shrodinger’s cat paradox has often been taken to ridiculous extremes, it’s more about predicted behavior of subparticles as various points in time and how to corral such behaviors into doing useful work such as creating extremely fast and powerful computers with them.


10 posted on 07/14/2019 6:37:23 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: I want the USA back

Heisenberg moved the cat. Or maybe the box.


11 posted on 07/14/2019 6:43:14 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: I want the USA back
"I operate under the principle that a statement is either true or false, and that there is no middle ground between true and false. There is no basis for common understanding with people who reject that principle, and so it is impossible to talk with them about anything."

That'll get you through life just fine.

But it turns out that, unfortunately, the real world just isn't that simple.

BTW, great tagline!

13 posted on 07/14/2019 6:53:20 AM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: I want the USA back

Reality is more complicated than that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%93particle_duality


29 posted on 07/14/2019 10:13:50 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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