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One giant ... lie? Why so many people still think the moon landings were faked
The Guardian ^ | 07-10-2019 | Richard Godwin

Posted on 07/10/2019 10:21:39 AM PDT by NRx

It took 400,000 Nasa employees and contractors to put Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin on the moon in 1969 – but only one man to spread the idea that it was all a hoax. His name was Bill Kaysing.

It began as “a hunch, an intuition”, before turning into “a true conviction” – that the US lacked the technical prowess to make it to the moon (or, at least, to the moon and back). Kaysing had actually contributed to the US space programme, albeit tenuously: between 1956 and 1963, he was an employee of Rocketdyne, a company that helped to design the Saturn V rocket engines. In 1976, he self-published a pamphlet called We Never Went to the Moon: America’s Thirty Billion Dollar Swindle, which sought evidence for his conviction by means of grainy photocopies and ludicrous theories. Yet somehow he established a few perennials that are kept alive to this day in Hollywood movies and Fox News documentaries, Reddit forums and YouTube channels.

Despite the extraordinary volume of evidence (including 382kg of moon rock collected across six missions; corroboration from Russia, Japan and China; and images from the Nasa Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter showing the tracks made by the astronauts in the moondust), belief in the moon-hoax conspiracy has blossomed since 1969. Among 9/11 truthers, anti-vaxxers, chemtrailers, flat-Earthers, Holocaust deniers and Sandy Hook conspiracists, the idea that the moon landings were faked isn’t even a source of anger any more – it is just a given fact.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Conspiracy; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: 911truthers; antivaxxers; apollo11; billkaysing; chemtrailers; fakenews; flatearthers; grauniad; holocaustdenial; kaysing; moonlanding; sandyhookparanoia
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To: Reily

I don’t watch that show but what i have just briefly read....YEA


81 posted on 07/10/2019 12:17:33 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: NRx
My favorite "proof" stated by Flat Earthers...oops...sorry...Moon Landings Faked nut bags is the "fact" that there is no wind on the moon so the flag could not possibly be standing out straight.

Of course, for those of us old enough to have seen it live...Jules Bergman of ABC explained that there is a flexible aluminum rod at the top of the flag.

82 posted on 07/10/2019 12:18:24 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Elitist Liberals have no idea the hunger and strength of the beast they have uncaged.)
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To: mowowie
The Chem-trail crap really gets me...

I know exactly how the chem-trail hoax got started. Back in the late nineties, a caller into the Art Bell show started rambling about con-trails all over the sky, and when Art 'corrected' the caller and asked "did you say chem-trails?", the caller enthusiastically answered in the affirmative, and a hoax was born. Art, being the consummate exploiter of the weird and conspiratorial, ran with it, and it has been a staple of the paranormal community ever since.
83 posted on 07/10/2019 12:18:51 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: circlecity
I you have a good telescope, can you see items that we left behind on the moon? (ie. flag, rover, etc.)

Do you really believe that?

84 posted on 07/10/2019 12:19:30 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (Prov 24: Do not fret because of evildoers. Do not associate with those given to change.)
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To: mowowie

The show is off the air now.
It was funny! Particularly if you grew up in small town America. I had high school friends that were every character in that show! - yes my own Dale Gribble!


85 posted on 07/10/2019 12:20:40 PM PDT by Reily
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To: gaijin

also because “it was faked” is a lot easier to understand than why we totally abandoned space travel for two generations after such a triumph


86 posted on 07/10/2019 12:21:06 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: Reily

My friend kept a terrarium with a few rocks in it and nothing else. As I recall, it had something to do with levitating the rocks. And this guy was an equipment maintenance technician. Had to be a lot of cognitive dissonance going on in his head.


87 posted on 07/10/2019 12:22:13 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: DungeonMaster
"Do you really believe that?"

Believe what? I merely asked a good faith question.

88 posted on 07/10/2019 12:25:09 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: sparklite2

What are you talking about?
Sound is a tad bit below the ultraviolet spectrum.
My bud mike told me so....


89 posted on 07/10/2019 12:26:02 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Campion; circlecity

Yes, those pics are taken from lunar orbit, not earth. Pretty cool to see the footpaths are still visible.


90 posted on 07/10/2019 12:27:03 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: Mr. Jeeves

“Probably because we haven’t demonstrated the ability to go back.”

We can return to the moon wit our current technology and a team running the entire mission from a half dozen laptops at Starbucks.


91 posted on 07/10/2019 12:28:20 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Trump is President and CEO of America, Inc.)
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To: SpaceBar

interesting

What is even more interesting is how they completely dismiss the physics behind con-trails to keep their stupid conspiracy theory alive.

kinda like how leftists think..


92 posted on 07/10/2019 12:30:41 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Boogieman

Not only the Russians, but our Democrat-owned press and Democrats. You think the Democrats and press hate Donald Trump? Multiply that x10 and that is how much they hated Richard Nixon. If Nixon had tried to set up an elaborate hoax that had to involve thousands of people, the press would have found out about it and they would not have had to wait for Watergate to destroy him. They would have crucified him. And the Democrats, i.e., Daniel Inouye would have had a field day in his senate hearings. This would have been circus like no other!


93 posted on 07/10/2019 12:32:54 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: mowowie

The noise coming from his ‘black lights’ must be deafening.


94 posted on 07/10/2019 12:34:21 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: NRx

https://youtu.be/0QLCX-vVWok


95 posted on 07/10/2019 12:34:45 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: circlecity

No. You can’t clearly see the landing sites from earth. However, the lunar orbiters can and have photographed the sites.

ALSO, laser reflectors were left on the moon. Lasers are fired from earth from time to time and the beams are reflected back directly on the paths that they came in on. The time it takes to detect the round trip is used to calculate the distance.

We could not do that if we had not been there leave the reflectors.


96 posted on 07/10/2019 12:37:55 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: circlecity
Believe what? I merely asked a good faith question.

Sorry, read too fast and "focused" on the "I" rather than "If".

The answer is no you can't. An extremely good telescope has an angular resolution of about 1 arc second which translates to objects about a mile in size at the distance of the moon.

97 posted on 07/10/2019 12:38:23 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (Prov 24: Do not fret because of evildoers. Do not associate with those given to change.)
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To: Reily

My Buddy Brian LOVES King of the Hill....he does a perfect Hank impression.
I have so little time i never really got to watch it.
it’s on my list with like a hundred other shows to eventually binge watch.


98 posted on 07/10/2019 12:39:27 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: grumpygresh
"Here is something that the government also does. Conflate nutty ideas on one subject with valid criticism on other subjects..."

Was one of subjects listed not a nutty idea? I must have missed it.

99 posted on 07/10/2019 12:45:05 PM PDT by mlo
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To: sparklite2

That and the LSD...
lol


100 posted on 07/10/2019 12:45:44 PM PDT by mowowie
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