All this macho complaining about “feminization of men” is bogus. Is it?
Let's tell that to the LGTBers, the soy boys, cucks, girly men, SJW's, male feminists, and democrats across the board.
No, not bogus, but very real.
Have news for you: our very cultural background of CHRISTIANITY started this “feminization”. Men of western - Christian - culture are much kinder and gentler and fairer than other cultures, by its demands.
You confuse "civilizing" with "feminizimg".
It is true, Christianity has a largely civilizing effect, on both men AND women. It does not, however, call for men to behave like women, as much as you would like it to.
Humanity needs balance and what both sexes bring to the table. You may find that in the Bible somewhere. No expert.
Or are you saying men should be the full-throated “masculine” stereotype of cut-throat heartless blowhard tyrants allowed and demanded by other religions?
No. Why would I say that?
The only religion I know of that fits that bill would be Islam. I do not advocate for Islam.
I don't think you have a very good grasp on what it means to be "masculine". It is not the extreme "stereotype" as you have defined it here.
See, this is the problem when feminists talk about men and "toxic masculinity". Those that do, know nothing about men or what they believe and they come at the topic from a purely feminine perspective.
Oh good God. Not “bogus” so much as overplayed by FR men.
It is NOT just Islam that produces brutal men. None as consistent, but plenty under Hindu and Buddhist Shinto were brutal and ruthless. And that ruthless coldness was the purview of men, not women,who were to be truly “the little woman” and put up with their abuses.
Frankly I’m experienced with FR discussions relating to this same old topic and anything relating to it, and it’s the same stuff. In our particular topic “what is a male”, by FR braggadocio you’d think indeed men are supposed to be these very brutal careless heartless stereotypes. At the very least they sing praises of the very worst of redneck hicks as the epitome of manliness...I.e., any good manner is seen as “womanly” and thus an unfair imposition on men.
Luckily I know better by my wonderful father and grandfathers, who are no blowhard macho men but REAL men, and my husband, as well as cousins, etc. And I think mostly on FR it’s a lot of reactive big talk. I certainly hope so.
Huh.
My American-American husband of Italian descent just told me that this is a stupid argument.
He says, if you are comfortable in your sexuality and are a ‘manly man’, you should be OK with giving another man a hug.
He says, “there is nothing sexual about that. And if that gives you the ‘oogies’, then you need to explore that reaction.”
Then he said, ‘it’s bedtime.’
G’nite :-)