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The Lack of Gentle Platonic Touch in Men's Lives is a Killer
The Good Men Project ^ | June 2018 | Mark Greene

Posted on 07/01/2019 12:06:35 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

In American culture, we believe that men can never be entirely trusted in the realm of the physical. We collectively suspect that, given the opportunity, men will collapse into the sexual at a moment’s notice. That men don’t know how to physically connect otherwise. That men can’t control themselves. That men are dogs.

There is no corresponding narrative about women.

And where does this leave men? Physically and emotionally isolated. Cut off from the deeply human physical contact that is proven to reduce stress, encourage self esteem and create community. Instead, we walk in the vast crowds of our cities alone in a desert of disconnection. Starving for physical connection.

How often do men actually get the opportunity to express affection through long lasting platonic touch? How often does it happen between men? Or between men and women? Not a hand shake or a hug, but lasting physical contact between two people that is comforting and personal but not sexual. Between persons who are not lovers and never will be. Think, holding hands. Or leaning on each other. Sitting together...And if you are a man, imagine a five minutes of contact with another man. How quickly does that idea raise the ugly specter of homophobia? And why?

I doubt its a question the average Italian man would ever ask himself. But here in America, generations of Puritanical sexual shaming have made it a central question. By putting the fear of the sexual first in all our interactions, we have thrown out the baby with the bathwater, avoiding all contact rather than risk even the hint of unwanted sexual touch.

American culture leaves boys few options. While aggression on the basketball court or bullying in the locker room often results in sporadic moments of human contact, gentleness likely does not...

(Excerpt) Read more at goodmenproject.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: affection; chivalry; italian; love; masculinity; mentalhealth; platonic; puritanical; relationships; schizophrenia
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To: bagster
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41 posted on 07/01/2019 12:58:09 PM PDT by CaptainPhilFan
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Sounds like the author is the “Joe Biden” of the twinkie crowd.


42 posted on 07/01/2019 12:59:55 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Jamestown1630
Well, that’s what you SAY.

Correct. Continue.


43 posted on 07/01/2019 1:02:56 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Jamestown1630

being raised in the italian culture, there is plenty of platonic touching, embracing, kissing and rough housing...

this article is whack!


44 posted on 07/01/2019 1:03:05 PM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: NFHale

Hear! Hear!


45 posted on 07/01/2019 1:04:18 PM PDT by Bigg Red (WWG1WGA)
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To: CaptainPhilFan

46 posted on 07/01/2019 1:07:05 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I’m not a guy, but the men in our church shake hands coming and going, will put their hand on the shoulder of another man who comes up front to be prayed for, and give one another an occasional wack on the back, when indicated, for a job of some sort, done well. That’s about the gist of it, and that seems like enough mano a mano to me.


47 posted on 07/01/2019 1:09:08 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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48 posted on 07/01/2019 1:15:55 PM PDT by BlueLancer (Orchides Forum Trahite - Cordes Et Mentes Veniant)
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To: billorites

ROFL! That picture cracks me up, no matter how many times I see it! The look on that cop’s face is PRICELESS! Republicans oughta use it as a campaign ad: “Gathering of men at the local coffee shop -— $25. Look on the face of the cop Joe’s molesting -— PRICELESS!”


49 posted on 07/01/2019 1:16:33 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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I always find these guys are horn-dog arguments interesting. After thirty years of observing people across all 50 states, I have concluded that if you could actually perform a 100% accurate survey tracking people from 15 to 50, you would find that by the time the subjects reached 50, the average woman have had far more sexual encounters with far more partners than the average man. A large percentage by at least an order of magnitude regardless of marital status.


50 posted on 07/01/2019 1:19:27 PM PDT by dsrtsage (For Leftists, World History starts every day at breakfast)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege; All

Reminds me of an ad I saw in a paper ones....”Monosexual wanted for mutual alone-ness...No Touching!”


51 posted on 07/01/2019 1:27:59 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: billorites
I think that cop is thinking “bad touch,bad touch”!
52 posted on 07/01/2019 1:33:23 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Comey,Brennan and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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To: hopespringseternal

“What a twit. I hate being touched by anyone who is not immediate family.”

I’m with you on this— I will not sit on a couch between people, eeks me out. Family members and girlfriend I’m good with.

Never had many platonic friendships with women, unless they are wife or girlfriend of one of my buddies. They would still be in the class of untouchables though.


53 posted on 07/01/2019 1:34:02 PM PDT by dgbrown
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
I shake hands with men regularly...of course. I might give a man a quick hug at a wedding or a funeral. That's it...that's the way real men do it.
54 posted on 07/01/2019 1:35:50 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Comey,Brennan and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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To: dgbrown
Never had many platonic friendships with women...

Can't speak for other men but I cannot be "friends" with a woman whom I find physically attractive. I can certainly be polite,cooperative,etc with such a woman (for example a work colleague).

55 posted on 07/01/2019 1:40:57 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Comey,Brennan and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Every now and then, I need for a true friend to pull my finger. Will you pull my finger?


56 posted on 07/01/2019 1:41:22 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Does it ever occur to these pussifiers that men are content with the amount of “contact” we currently have? We’re not pining away because our homies don’t hold our hands or give us lingering hugs. We’re okay with a rough handshake or a clap on the back.

Why?

Because we’re not women. And we don’t want to be.


57 posted on 07/01/2019 1:55:14 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Baloney, ever seen a hockey game? Sure, there’s fighting, but there is also tons of running into arms and hugging and grabbing when they win or score. Probably all sports. Today’s young man is ok with hugging, back slapping, arms around his buddies. Gay young people are out. So no one is desperately hiding their sexuality and trying to overcompensate by never touching another man.

Holy hell, our president touched Kim Jong about 3 times in the first couple minutes. It’s ok for men to touch. It doesn’t mean anything bad. Someone who bullies a kid for “gay” because he hugged his buddy will be the one who gets socially isolated.


58 posted on 07/01/2019 2:00:56 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: NFHale
The “gentle platonic touch” didn’t clear the bunkers and blockhouses on the bluffs overlooking Omaha Beach; nor did a “gentle platonic touch” plant a flag on Iwo Jima or clear the caves on Peleliu.

Take a look at the snapshots from WWII. Notice something?

The guys quite often are leaning on each other or have their arms casually draped over one another's shoulders.

Holding hands, not so much. :)

But that is the kind of touching I think that the author is talking about. He is however wrong about why it stopped. It was not because of "Puritanical sexual shaming" but the LACK of it. We are bombarded with sex. Everything is sexual, even when it is not. We have been conditioned to see sex in everything. So a guy putting his arm around you is sex because everybody is out of the closet and shoving their sexual persona in our face.

Women have less trouble with it but even among women you will find less touching. And it is all for the same reason. If everything is about sex then any sort of touch means that you will welcome sexual advances from the person you touched.

It is really rather horrible.

59 posted on 07/01/2019 2:19:12 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Human beings don't behave rationally. We rationalize our behavior.)
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To: Yaelle
It’s ok for men to touch.

I gotta ask, Yaelle.

Are you a man or a woman?

If woman, please don't tell me what is "ok" for a man to do. We'll figure out our own business, thanks.

😃


60 posted on 07/01/2019 2:38:14 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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