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What Jamaican Maroons and the Founding Fathers have in common
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Posted on 06/29/2019 8:13:15 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica

Full title: What Jamaican Maroons and the Founding Fathers have in common: When fighting a superpower, it is not possible to free every single person We live in an age were now even the most fringe of arguments, the idea of reparations, is a widespread part of presidential elections. The problem with this is that if the progressives had any consistency they would be demanding that Britain pay reparations to American blacks. The Founding Fathers didn't bring all of these slaves here. King George did. All three of them. Queen Anne did. King William did. Queen Mary did. King James did. And so too did King Charles. The Founders even called the Brits on it in their writings. But the facts don't matter anyways - not to progressives. They are only interested in reparations because it would divide the country even more. In division, the progressives find power.

What does this all have to do with Jamaican Maroons? During the time of Britain's slave trade, one of their primary destinations was the island of Jamaica. The entire history of Jamaica over the last 500 years is one big letter F and letter U toward the British crown. Just follow the bouncing ball. After the Conquistadores wiped out the local tribes, the island was primarily hispanic. So how is it that left wing Wikipedia states that Jamaica is over 90% black? How did all of those blacks get there? Did the tribes bring the blacks to Jamaica? Did the Founding Fathers do this? Did the Conquistadores bring all of those blacks to Jamaica? Who did this?

Britain did. Britain took the island over in between 1650-1660, depending on which books you read. During this time, the English deported most of those who were still favorable to the Spanish crown, thus making Jamaica a white island. Then came Britain's slave ships. The rest is history. Except for one thing. The Maroons. The Maroons where escaped slaves, who make their way toward uninhabited parts of the island.

The Maroons have a lot of similarity with the Founders in the context of three things: Fighting against Britain for freedom, serfdom under a tyrant, and not being able to achieve full emancipation after battle. Britain fought the Maroons on and off from 1728 to basically the early 1800s. During this time, one of their leaders Cudjoe proved to be quite formidable. After some years of war and mounting costs, the war against the Maroons reached a sort of a stalemate, and Cudjoe and the British came to an agreement and a treaty.

One article of this treaty, the Maroons gained freedom for themselves, but didn't gain freedom for all people. Neglecting the rest of the blacks.

That sound familiar? One article of faith among progressive propagandists is that the Founders gained freedom for themselves, but didn't gain freedom for all people. Neglecting the rest of the blacks.

You see! That proves it. Not everybody was freed, so the Maroons are racists. No, wait.... No wait. I'm getting my propaganda confused here. It's the Founders who were racists for not freeing everybody. Hmm. Why is it that history always disproves the progressives?

At this time and for the next century, Britain was a super power. Of course the Founders couldn't free every last person. Neither could the Maroons. Even after admitting one of two things: stalemate(Cudjoe) or defeat(Yorktown). When dealing with a super power, you just can't always get everything you want. That's reality. Because what if the super power decides to come back? This is a significant question. Britain was not the "good super power" that America has been since becoming one.

What if the super power comes back?


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: britain; colonies; emancipation; jamaica; newworld; progressingamerica; slavery; superpower
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Progressive narratives are actually very easy to debunk. The only hard part is knowing where to look.
1 posted on 06/29/2019 8:13:15 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica
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To: ebshumidors; nicollo; Kalam; IYAS9YAS; laplata; mvonfr; Southside_Chicago_Republican; celmak; ...
If anybody wants on/off the revolutionary progressivism ping list, send me a message

Progressives do not want to discuss their own history. I want to discuss their history.

Summary: In erasing every aspect of the Monarchy from the Founding, the progressives have granted themselves a narrative advantage.

2 posted on 06/29/2019 8:16:01 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to "the historians" anymore.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
From wikipedia:

Maroons were Africans and their descendants in the Americas who formed settlements away from New World chattel slavery. Some had escaped from plantations, but others had always been free, like those born among them in freedom. They often mixed with indigenous peoples, thus creating distinctive creole cultures.

The fact that the author does not appear to explain what a Maroon is, tells me that author is a bit of a "maroon" -- as Bugs Bunny would say.

3 posted on 06/29/2019 8:16:46 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Isn't it interesting that the topic of reparations only comes up during election years? I guess getting the Negros all worked up about a possible windfall is the only way to get them off their butts and to the polls on election day.

Funny how the topic is always dropped the day after the election

4 posted on 06/29/2019 8:22:04 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: ClearCase_guy

2 posted on 6/29/2019, 11:16:01 AM
3 posted on 6/29/2019, 11:16:46 AM

If more than 45 seconds would have been taken, this would have been noticed:

“The Maroons where escaped slaves, who make their way toward uninhabited parts of the island.”


5 posted on 06/29/2019 8:23:09 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to "the historians" anymore.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Had we not had a successful revolt against The Crown starting in 1776, slavery would have ended here in 1833, by act of Parliament, when it did for the rest of the British empire.

(Unless The South revolted against the full might of the entire Empire at that point!)


6 posted on 06/29/2019 8:25:26 AM PDT by null and void (Stamp out philately!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Interesting piece,
Thanks.
.
Perhaps Jamaica
Would be a nice
Vacation spot,Mon.


7 posted on 06/29/2019 8:27:19 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“The rest is history. Except for one thing. The Maroons. The Maroons were escaped slaves, who made their way toward uninhabited parts of the island.”

Reading is fundamental


8 posted on 06/29/2019 8:51:22 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The Portugese brought the first African slaves to the New World, selling them to all of the European colonies. Before that, the colonists had tried to enslave Native Americans but it didn’t work well. They tended to run away. The British were latecomers to the slave trade and never really caught up with the Portugese and the Spainards. The British were also the first to take up the Abolition cause, first prohibiting transport of slaves in British bottoms (ships) and later abolishing slavery in their possessions. Brazil, orginally a Portugese colony, did not abolish slavery until the 1880s. A few American slave owners migrated to Brazil after the Civil War in order to preserve their plantation culture.


9 posted on 06/29/2019 8:56:07 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: ClearCase_guy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maroon_%28people%29


10 posted on 06/29/2019 9:01:29 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: null and void

No emancipation without representation!


11 posted on 06/29/2019 9:02:11 AM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Jefferson and many other Virginia/Georgian/South Carolinian slaveowners lost many of their slaves during the Revolutionary War because the British soldiers spread smallpox.

It is my understanding that even though about 90% of his slaves died off from smallpox, 100% of his debts for those slaves remained.

Jefferson had a bad opinion of the slave system.


12 posted on 06/29/2019 9:14:18 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: centurion316

Brazil,,,
That’s why they
Speak Portuguese!
.
It’s all coming together.


13 posted on 06/29/2019 9:18:06 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The Founding Fathers had to keep the colonies united.

Virginia, Maryland, South Carolina and Georgia had many slaves. If these states were told their slaves had to be freed, they might have reconciled with George III.


14 posted on 06/29/2019 9:20:08 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: ProgressingAmerica
So, the University of Chicago was founded by escaped slaves?


15 posted on 06/29/2019 9:52:35 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("...a choice between Woke-fevered Democrats and Koch-funded Republicans is insufficient."-Mark Steyn)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Thank you for education. Very informative.

BTW Kamala Harris’ father is the grandson of one of the big plantation slave owners in Jamaica.


16 posted on 06/29/2019 10:18:02 AM PDT by little jeremiah (When we do not punish evildoEers we are ripping the foundations of justice from future generations.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Britain sold finished cotton products to American colonies. The cotton was picked in America.

Since the British profited from American slavery, shouldn’t they be on-board to willingly pay reparations?


17 posted on 06/29/2019 10:30:50 AM PDT by Does so (A mysterious nuclear explosion would have the fingerprints of Uranium One!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

What does Bugs Bunny think?


18 posted on 06/29/2019 10:32:35 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Article


19 posted on 06/29/2019 11:14:39 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: null and void
Had we not had a successful revolt against The Crown starting in 1776, slavery would have ended here in 1833, by act of Parliament, when it did for the rest of the British empire.
. . . assuming that the South had no influence on Parliament. I would argue it’s more likely that the American Revolution, by freeing the Empire of most of its slave holders, made that act possible or at least easier.

It’s an interesting counterfactual . . .


20 posted on 06/29/2019 11:23:18 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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