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Science Uprising, Episode 2: Mind Denial
Evolution News ^ | June 10, 2019 | David Klinghoffer

Posted on 06/11/2019 8:22:00 AM PDT by Heartlander

Science Uprising, Episode 2: Mind Denial

David Klinghoffer | @d_klinghoffer
June 10, 2019

“We are robots made out of meat, which is what I’m going to try to convince you of today.” So says evolutionist Jerry Coyne in the second episode of the counterprogramming video series Science Uprising. Coyne, Daniel Dennett, and Sam Harris serve as the foils for the episode, up against neuroscientists Jeffrey Schwartz and Michael Egnor.

The question: Does the organ of the brain house the personality, the intellect, totally so that the “inescapable I” of the subjective self is reducible to three pounds of flesh? So say atheists and mind deniers Coyne, Dennett, and Harris, and college students and media consumers are similarly instructed. The denial of free will, of the soul, require the brain to be just that.

But as Dr. Schwartz and Dr. Egnor argue, if Harris et al. were right, then research should not show that thought can change the brain (mind over matter), as it can. If materialists were right, Benjamin Libet’s experiments demonstrating “free won’t” should have had different results. Wilder Penfield should have been able to reach into the brain and alter the intellect or the “sense of self.” Dr. Egnor describes operations he himself has performed, separating the two halves the brain, in which the patient’s personality nevertheless remains unified.

All this is against the expectations of the materialist cultural and scientific hegemony. But they never tell you that, do they? Find the episode here:

VIDEO: Science Uprising Episode 2 - Mind: The Inescapable I

“Materialists are realists, in a sense,” says Egnor, summing up. “They understand that materialism cannot explain the mind. Rather than abandoning materialism, they abandon the mind.”


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1 posted on 06/11/2019 8:22:00 AM PDT by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander

vs. you are created in the image of God.


2 posted on 06/11/2019 8:26:55 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Heartlander

brains are shaped for fitness, not for truth


I don’t have a clue what that means.


3 posted on 06/11/2019 8:28:03 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Robert Spitzer, former Gonzaga U. president, cites a study where a patient who died and came back, told medical personnel about seeing, while out of the body, a tennis shoe that was lodged outside the building in an area where it couldn't be observed. Podcast, Fr. Robert Spitzer: Life After Death, Evidence of the Soul, Love and Resurrection 4.24.19
4 posted on 06/11/2019 8:35:28 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: Heartlander
“We are robots made out of meat, which is what I’m going to try to convince you of today.”

He's addressing his fellow MSM-Democrat liberals.

5 posted on 06/11/2019 8:36:20 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: Heartlander
the materialist cultural and scientific hegemony.

Consciousness has an identity and a nature. It is an immaterial entity. This fact is self evident by the act of introspection. It is an example of the law of identity and the law of causality.

6 posted on 06/11/2019 8:38:02 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Heartlander

“I am a meat popsicle.”

Love, Corbin Dallas


7 posted on 06/11/2019 9:08:02 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (#Dregs #DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe #BuildIt)
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To: PeterPrinciple

So many articles today are from religious sources,
FR feels like first morning at vacation bible school.


8 posted on 06/11/2019 9:50:17 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: CharlesOConnell

One medical group put a sign face up on top of the shelving in a unit where NDEs were not uncommon. No ‘floating out of my body’ has ever been able to read the sign.


9 posted on 06/11/2019 9:52:49 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: sparklite2
It’s not a religious source – but as my tagline has stated for years “Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism”. - Denyse O'Leary

Regardless, here’s another reminder

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10 posted on 06/11/2019 10:06:37 AM PDT by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse O'Leary)
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To: Heartlander

Maybe it should be for God, family, and creationism?
I don’t know. Just an observation.


11 posted on 06/11/2019 10:11:40 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: sparklite2

Strike two – it’s not about creationism either. Do you believe human conscience and consciousness ultimately emerged from mindlessness?


12 posted on 06/11/2019 10:15:10 AM PDT by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse O'Leary)
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To: Heartlander

Sorry, I’m done bumping your thread.


13 posted on 06/11/2019 10:26:32 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: sparklite2

I really don’t care about thread bumps – but if you are not going to even attempt to understand the subject matter of the post – just don’t comment – it’s bad form.


14 posted on 06/11/2019 10:32:56 AM PDT by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse O'Leary)
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To: Heartlander

Here’s another problem with materialism: the only thing that anyone can have absolute, direct evidence of is immaterial!

What I mean is that we only really at the end of the day have the evidence of our own consciousness, which is an immaterial thing. Every other kind of evidence requires us to make unprovable assumptions before we can take it into account. Even to believe that some outside world exists to match up with the sensations we experience subjectively requires some leaps that can never be scientifically established.

Yet science would rather deny the existence of the immaterial thing upon which all the rest of our logic and deductions are built, than to admit that the immaterial is can be as real as the material.


15 posted on 06/11/2019 2:17:48 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: PeterPrinciple

Say your mind can create a 100% accurate view of visual reality, but that view would be less efficient at spotting predators. Well, it’s more advantageous for your brain to create the less accurate view that allows you to not get eaten.

That’s preferring fitness over truth.


16 posted on 06/11/2019 2:19:28 PM PDT by Boogieman
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