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Iroquois Prophet predicted in 1451 Red Man will be conquered by White, then Blacks conquer White Man
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Posted on 06/07/2019 8:01:27 PM PDT by tired&retired

He also prophesied that Black man would then conquer the White Man and bring chaos. Then He would return as a Light in the sky to bring peace.

In 1451,forty years before Columbus first came to America, a Holy Man and Prophet known as Deganawida, "The Great Peacemaker" came to the Mohawk Indians in New York and convinced them to join forces with their enemies to form the Iroquois Federation. The 5 original tribes were later joined by the Tuscarora Indians who moved North from the Carolinas.

While there is much debate on this, the U.S. Government was formed using the Iroquois Federation as a model.

Per Wiki:

The Great Peacemaker Deganawida prophesied that a "white serpent" would come to his people's lands and make friends with them, only to deceive them later. A "red serpent" would later make war against the "white serpent", but an Indian boy would be given a great power. He would be accepted as a chosen leader by the people of "the land of the hilly country." The boy stays neutral in the fight, and he speaks to the people, who number as the blades of grass, but he is heard by all. After a season, a "black serpent" would come and defeat both the "white" and "red serpents". According to the prophecy, when the people gathered under the elm tree become humble, all three "serpents" would be blinded by a light many times brighter than the sun. Deganawidah said that he would be that light.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Religion; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: faithandphilosophy; iroquois; prophet; vanity
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To: ckilmer

Excellent post. Thank You


81 posted on 06/08/2019 1:49:01 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

I have also read that the Iroquois had a particularly fierce and mean streak, that they conquered, enslaved and destroyed the Huron and drove the Chippewa west. They instilled terror in other tribes.

They supposedly would rip the flesh off a captive piece by piece, in an attempt to induce fear of pain and death. They would hope to enslave these captives souls in the after life.

Very unlike the Navajo or Hopi.


82 posted on 06/08/2019 2:10:58 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Stay the course!)
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To: Lakeshark

I know they virtually wiped out the Huron, but I didn’t think they had any slaves.


83 posted on 06/08/2019 2:12:57 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired
The hair on my arms and neck stood up along with huge goosebumps when I read it.

I felt a bit like that reading the Iroquois prophecy. I first heard of the "Iron birds, land of the red men" prophecy from my teacher who heard it from one of his teachers. I did a search to find an accurate quoting of it (which I posted above) and found it had more context and more to the statement than I had originally been told. Can't speak for this source/website but this is where I found it ...

Guru Padmasambhava’s Phrophecies

84 posted on 06/08/2019 3:25:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: tired&retired
Yes, I am a bachelor. Was married once, late in life, for three years but it didn't work well for either of us.

Time collapses ...

You have put it in much more explicit terms but my teacher has also stated that time is an illusion, it is phenomena like any other phenomena and that it's possible to learn to see past that illusion.

I put that last in italics because it is not exactly how he said it, it's an oversimplification. At the moment I can't remember a better way to put it.

85 posted on 06/08/2019 3:39:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: captain_dave

Those guys were way outnumbered and they dont have as many guns as we do.


86 posted on 06/08/2019 3:39:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: steve86
I have my suspicions that it is recent hoax but haven’t researched it.

Aren't all prophecies denounced as hoaxes by someone? It does make it hard to believe any of them.

So I don’t know what to think.

That states my POV on so many things! lol

87 posted on 06/08/2019 3:43:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Redwood71

I’ve never been very interested in Nostradamus’ prophecies. The coded arcane language and broad general terms makes them too difficult to consider seriously for me.

The Buddhists have been pretty good about writing everything down in detail and keeping their documents safe. They’ve been doing that from the time of the historical Buddha Shakyamuni over a thousand years before Guru Rinpoche’s time.


88 posted on 06/08/2019 3:52:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: tired&retired
I agree that many of Locke’s ideas were used, but the Iroquois had the same ideas much earlier.

Rousseau's Social Contract is nearly a dead ringer for the structure of the American Government. He modeled his ideas after the Swiss who had been practicing a representative government for centuries. I'm sure the Founding Fathers had their home libraries stocked with books form European writers from modern back to ancient times.

Some colonials may have admired the natives. I'm sure a lot felt ill will toward them given the many bloody conflicts. I'm sure a lot of colonials looked down on them as savages and saw nothing of value. I'm sticking with Dead White European Males as the architects of the American Republic.

89 posted on 06/08/2019 9:45:36 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Behind enemy lines)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Interesting thing is that they all seem to come up with the future by a certain point of view. But no one completely comes out with the whole story on these calls. If you put a group of monkeys in a room, lock it, feed and water them, at some point they will rewrite the Magna Carta. So if anyone of these clairvoyance are from a long line of the same, sooner or later something they say will come true. Of course 99% of it won’t, but that 1% will. And these cons are all over the world and are believed by people that are looking for nirvana. Hope they find it.

rwood


90 posted on 06/09/2019 8:57:09 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Redwood71

One scam involves financial prowess.

Dick Brown scrounges up a mailing list of 124 rubes. He tells half of them that a little watched OTC stock, Plastic Wheel Rims, is going to go up. He tells the other half it’s going down.

The stock went down. So he scratches the names where he got it wrong off the mailing list.

He predicts GE stock is going to drop to half of the new list and it’s going to rise to the other half.

You can see where this is going. After four rounds of this, he has 8 rubes who’ve seen him predict accurately four times is a row. Wow. I want him investing MY money.


91 posted on 06/09/2019 9:06:57 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: sparklite2

Only if the money is on consignment and he’s handcuffed to you so he can’t skip. Then if there is any talent there, you got your percentage.

rwood


92 posted on 06/09/2019 2:24:34 PM PDT by Redwood71
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