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We have to stop the legalization of recreational drugs in this country. A thoughtful and well documented essay explaining why the Libertarian view is fatally flawed.
1 posted on 06/07/2019 7:40:00 PM PDT by Persevero
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To: Persevero

We have known all of this for a long time, everyone is in denial for the sake of the next high or enhancing the state tax coffers.


2 posted on 06/07/2019 7:45:23 PM PDT by Fungi
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From your link:

“Nor do any of these studies prove that rising cannabis use has caused population-wide increases in psychosis or other mental illness.”


3 posted on 06/07/2019 7:46:16 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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The Link Between Marijuana and Schizophrenia

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But here's the conundrum: while marijuana went from being a secret shared by a small community of hepcats and beatniks in the 1940s and '50s to a rite of passage for some 70% of youth by the turn of the century, rates of schizophrenia in the U.S. have remained flat, or possibly declined. For as long as it has been tracked, schizophrenia has been found to affect about 1% of the population.


4 posted on 06/07/2019 7:47:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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Already posted twice, BTW: https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?s=Marijuana%2C+Mental+Illness%2C+and+Violence&ok=Search&q=quick&m=exact&o=time


5 posted on 06/07/2019 7:48:30 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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We’ve ot years of infomtaion from states that have legalized.
But all we get is partisan explications of the data.

Wish someone would try to give a fair evaluation.

That goes for both sides of the debate. Neither seems to try to be fair.


8 posted on 06/07/2019 7:54:08 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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Thanks for posting. Did not see it in February and would not have known to search for it!

Take care.........pilgrim


9 posted on 06/07/2019 7:55:17 PM PDT by pilgrim
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bmk


15 posted on 06/07/2019 8:19:23 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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How long will this “Reefer Madness” mentality go on. People will do whatever is necessary to ruin their lives...Get over it....


17 posted on 06/07/2019 8:28:40 PM PDT by Dandy (Drain the swamp baby!!!)
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We have to stop the legalization of recreational drugs in this country. A thoughtful and well documented essay explaining why the Libertarian view is fatally flawed.

Let us consider how "we" should do what you recommend. First of all, the libertarian view (and, when it is expedient, other people's view) is that the Comstitution is the supreme law of the land. So, please tell me...where is Congress granted an enumerated power to ban recreational drugs? Please keep in mind that it took a Constitutional Amendment to ban alcohol... if that was so with booze, by what power is the government banning cannibus et al?

In reality, the modern banning of drugs is based on The Pure Food and Drug Act of 1906. And guess what was the basis of that Act? Wait for it...yes...yes...it was the COMMERCE CLAUSE! That's right...that most abused element of the Constitution, favorite vehicle of statists, leftists, New Dealers and other losers, is how Leviathan permits Prohibitionists to ban whatever drug that scares them.

Of course, most liberty-loving people throw the yellow flag when Pelosi and Schumer use the CC to regulate ammo, and other end-runs around the Constitution. But this end-run gets a cheery two-thumbs up when it comes to pot. Et tu, Brute?

Look, I understand the wreckage that drugs leave in their wake. I know families that have buried people due to addiction. It is a human tragedy. But the same can be said of firearms and alcohol, and I like to think the Founders got it right.

So, if you are for keeping pot illegal without a Constitutional Amemdment, the next time AOC or some other idiot says "if we can save just ONE LIFE by banning guns, I think we should ban guns," instead of blasting the idiot, recognize that they are your philosophical cousin.

18 posted on 06/07/2019 8:30:04 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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If smoking marijuana does raise the likelihood of schizophrenia it is a troubling thing indeed.

The age onset of schizophrenia is most often in the late teens to mid-twenties.

This is the same age that most people begin to smoke marijuana.

19 posted on 06/07/2019 8:32:34 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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Personal observation of one close friend who could check off both boxes: smoking pot will make someone who was going to become schizophrenic develop the condition sooner than they might otherwise have done. In my friends case, early indications were there before he became involved in drugs.

I’m not saying this to minimize the harmful effects of drugs, particularly marijuana, which if nothing else can steal years if not decades of ones life and literally turn them into smoke. The mental effects, particularly on short- and mid-term memory, fade over time, at least in many cases.


20 posted on 06/07/2019 8:48:30 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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Next they can go find that part of the Constutution that authorizes the federal gov to put people in jail for possession and ingestion of a plant. I will give you a hint, it’s in the 11th amendment


21 posted on 06/07/2019 8:49:29 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suckle the breast of Capitalism.)
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Weed is great except it makes you retarded and gay...


22 posted on 06/07/2019 8:49:33 PM PDT by northislander
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Never heard of anyone getting violent while stoned. Drunk? Hell yeah. Booze gets folks real fired up.


29 posted on 06/07/2019 10:18:44 PM PDT by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?''.)
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All you weenie moron losers who know nothing and still spout guvmint crap from the 20s like reefer madness Which was blatantly racist Should just take your know nothing nonsense and get lost

The game is over. Cannibis is ancient medicine and CBD is helping millions of people with no serious psychoactive effects.

The teas. Chocolate. And other edibles help millions with nausea caused by cancer anxiety. Bulemia and hundreds of other conditions

Smoking anything is stupid. But kids will be kids and hippies hippies

Cannibis has been around for thousands of years and ain’t going away

You doubters and naysayers. Are


30 posted on 06/07/2019 10:19:03 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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l8r


38 posted on 06/07/2019 11:46:33 PM PDT by preacher ( Journalism no longer reports news, they use news to shape our society.)
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we are NOT going to stop the legalization of recreational drugs......

there is no going back.....

people wanted this....

just like they wanted pornography, and prostitution, and homosexual marriage, and boys and men competing in girls and womens sports....

there is no going back....

there is only finding some sane area to live where people practice common sense and worship the Lord.....

39 posted on 06/07/2019 11:49:56 PM PDT by cherry
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Bum fights between potheads and pothead attacks against non-criminals do happen around us every day. Soon enough, everyone will see those incidents for what they are.


41 posted on 06/08/2019 12:21:25 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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There are studies that show schizophrenics and bipolar people are 300-500% more likely to be tobacco users. Yet they do not make the false reach that tobacco *caused* their illness. It simply means mentally ill are more likely to abuse drugs as a way of dealing with their illness.

Complete propoganda piece and not a single twin study with cannabis has confirmed any of this. With abuse of alcohol and every drug on the pharmacy shelf, they have repeatedly proven direct damage in any set of identical twins. There are no cries for banning or limiting people’s use of alcohol.

Alcohol and OTC drugs of abuse like cough syrup still remain sold like candy including most 24 hour car rest areas. A doctor can prescribe psychoactive drugs that are proven to have side effects like sleep driving/murder. They can prescribe meth to your child. There are no roadside tests for these OTC and Rx drugs that are FAR more impairing than cannabis.

This proves the government’s cries of “it’s for your safety” are complete and utter bullsqueeze.

The only motive behind cannabis prohibition is profit and preaching to voters who bought the “safety” BS


43 posted on 06/08/2019 12:41:59 AM PDT by varyouga
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“Regular” use of alcohol causes more problems than pot....


57 posted on 06/08/2019 4:13:55 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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