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Why Should Immigrants ‘Respect Our Borders’? The West Never Respected Theirs
NY Times ^ | June 7, 2019 | Suketu Mehta

Posted on 06/07/2019 10:35:04 AM PDT by C19fan

There is a lot of debate these days about whether the United States owes its African-American citizens reparations for slavery. It does. But there is a far bigger bill that the United States and Europe have run up: what they owe to other countries for their colonial adventures, for the wars they imposed on them, for the inequality they have built into the world order, for the excess carbon they have dumped into the atmosphere.

The creditor countries aren’t seriously suggesting that the West send sacks of gold bullion every year to India or Nigeria. Their people are asking for fairness: for the borders of the rich countries to be opened to goods and people, to Indian textiles as well as Nigerian doctors. In seeking to move, they are asking for immigration as reparations.

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TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; colonialism; fakenews; illegals; liberalagenda; migrants; newyorkslimes; obamalegacy; reparations
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To: C19fan

“The West” - Why is the west singled out? Wars have been going on forever.

Answer to why the west was singled out: prejudice.

Before the modern era, the law of conquest ruled everywhere. Whether Genghis Khan, Attila the Hun, Shaka Zulu, Hannibal, Xerxes, or Alexander the Great.

As to the U.S., we generally acquired Indian lands by treaty; and, have reconsidered certain of them in order to rectify injustices.

Of course, the author doesn’t recognize this.

With regard to U.S. acquisitions of territory from Mexico prior to or after the Mexican-American War, these were (A) annexation of the Republic of Texas (which had seceded from Mexico), (B) reconciling the border between Texas and Mexico, (C) annexation of the Mexican states of New Mexico and California (which places seceded from Mexico during the war), (D) we paid Mexico for these territories (when usually the winner demands payment from the loser), (E) we recognized the private property, contracts and local governments of these places, and (F) we purchased the most southern part of the present state of Arizona. These are, maybe, complicated, but cannot be equated with the law of conquest.

But, the New York Times hates America so much, they refuse to acknowledge our role in ending the law of conquest.

The territories we gained from Spain, Germany, Austro-Hungary, the Ottoman Empire, Germany (again), Italy, and Japan after the Spanish-American War, WWI and WWII. Namely, none.

But, the New York Times calls us imperialists. To lie means that you deliberately misrepresent the truth. They aren’t smart enough to lie. They’re just fake.


41 posted on 06/07/2019 11:15:49 AM PDT by Redmen4ever (u)
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To: BenLurkin
Whereever we or the Europeans went, we brought education, medicine, commerce, and in general, civilization.

But it didn't take in many places. India and South Korea are examples of where it did take without the local population being obliterated. Western civilization imposed its values and accomplishments in other places while they remained. When the colonizers leave, the native population doesn't have the drive and/or DNA to maintain those structures.

Then most of the west made the mistake they're still making. Letting people who can't or won't maintain Western civilization in their homelands is polluting our civilization to extinction.

42 posted on 06/07/2019 11:20:01 AM PDT by grania ("We're all just pawns in their game")
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To: Lurker

Yes, NYT- the USA should dissolve itself and parcel out all its assets to the third world countries we have so badly abused. Without all that abuse many peoples would be living happily short and scrabble lives in an essentially stoneage milieu. Most of the present citizens of those countries would not be alive to claim reparations.


43 posted on 06/07/2019 11:22:57 AM PDT by arthurus (dcv)
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To: C19fan

Curious in that from his last name this fellow would
appear to be a native of India.

A country we have NEVER invaded.


44 posted on 06/07/2019 11:25:21 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: C19fan

There remains one tried and true method of ensuring foreigners respect our borders, and the time fast approaches when the American people, if not our elected “representatives” may have to resort to it...

Another reason to rejoice we have the 2nd Amendment...It ensures we retain the ability to enforce the other 9 if it comes to that...


45 posted on 06/07/2019 11:27:51 AM PDT by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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To: C19fan

There is a reason those other cultures were sacked. They didn’t protect their borders. Any sane self preserving culture will protect its borders. And we should protect ours.

Everything else in this POS article is missing the history lesson.


46 posted on 06/07/2019 11:31:09 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: C19fan

“But there is a far bigger bill that the United States and Europe have run up: what they owe to other countries for their colonial adventures...”

Yeah, go tell that to Europe. The United States was not a colonizer, we were a colony too.


47 posted on 06/07/2019 11:43:33 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: C19fan

So, we can all tell the writer one thing....the next time there is a natural disaster, famine, or any other horrific, mass casualty event, neither the USNS Mercy or USNS Comfort will show up off the coast of wherever the even took place and assist...FOR FREE. No members of the USMC, US Army, or US Air Force will help in any way shape or form.

We will instead, watch as the location turns to one of devastation, where the US could lend a very helpful hand, to one of desperation as famine and disease set in and claim the lives of even more people.

But, of course, those folks can always wait on the other hospital ships from China and Russia. You know, the ones that are always willing to lend a helping hand.


48 posted on 06/07/2019 12:06:18 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: 4Liberty

Not so. Some are Nigerian Princes.


49 posted on 06/07/2019 12:19:31 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: C19fan

1. They’re not asking. They’re demanding. There’s a difference.
2. The answer is still no.


50 posted on 06/07/2019 12:22:59 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: C19fan

Can’t really argue with that reasoning, except to point out that if the Injuns had a bigger defense budget they’d still have this continent.


51 posted on 06/07/2019 12:37:43 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Theoria

Illegal migration IS coloniaism!


52 posted on 06/07/2019 1:15:51 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: C19fan

What does India and Nigeria have to do with the US ?


53 posted on 06/07/2019 1:26:31 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: coaster123

LOL!!!


54 posted on 06/07/2019 2:06:02 PM PDT by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: C19fan

Notice no mention of Arab colonialism. I wonder why


55 posted on 06/07/2019 2:09:11 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: C19fan

I think I’ll re-watch Zulu tonight and the company of the 24th Regiment of Foot in action fiercely defending their outpost border from Zulus on the frontier of Natal.

I need a pick me up.


56 posted on 06/07/2019 2:12:59 PM PDT by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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To: C19fan

No!


57 posted on 06/07/2019 2:35:29 PM PDT by terycarl (Notre Dame was God's way of pointing out that France has fallen from His favor....)
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To: C19fan
There is a lot of debate these days about whether the United States owes its African-American citizens reparations for slavery. It does.

That's the NYT's idea of a discussion, all right. I'll chime in with a reasoned response: NO.

58 posted on 06/07/2019 2:43:02 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: BenLurkin

The other difference is that is how countries were started, land acquired by conquest, trade, purchase. Exactly how we got this country. We did build this country, made it into something special and do have borders and laws.

There is no one alive today that took the land, and no one alive that lost their land in any of the building of this nation.

If the socialists are determined to give reparations for past actions or return land to previous holders- then they need to show by example and give their property first.


59 posted on 06/07/2019 3:27:45 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: C19fan; Lurker; BenLurkin; JMS; b4its2late; GOPJ; Williams; All; coaster123; Regulator; ...

Just now coming across the wire, per the LA Times:

Trump has announced he will hit Mexico with tariffs.


60 posted on 06/07/2019 3:47:41 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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