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How Italian Americans can and should be considered people of color
Smerconish.com ^ | May 23, 2019 | Christopher Binetti

Posted on 06/05/2019 2:05:33 PM PDT by OddLane

Wendy’s has a commercial where a group of stereotypical Italian Americans crowd around an idealized white person and act crudely and threateningly towards him. They eat like slobs, eating spaghetti and meatballs, acting suspiciously of him, and generally make buffoons of themselves. They wear gold chains, have a darker complexion than the white man, and have very ethnic features such as black hair and big noses. Most obviously, the premise is that they are all mobsters and that the white man is there to defeat their evil. At the end of the commercial, two very non-Italian looking federal agents are shown.

This commercial was about a parmesan Caesar salad, by the way. The commercial took Italian food, culturally appropriated it, weaponized it, and attacked Italian Americans with it. The media is not covering this outrageous commercial. In fact, there is a civil rights group on Facebook that gets attacked, both by Italians and non-Italians, in very hateful language, just for pointing these kinds of issues out to the general public. Facebook, quick to ban right-wing haters, seems to be fine with the Italophobia...

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: christopherbinetti; italianamericans; stereotypes; wendys
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To: Fiji Hill
Tu Vuò Fà L'americano (you're acting like an American)--Renato Carosone (1956)

That's priceless! Thanks! I see you and raise you one Shaddup You Face.

Have you seen the movie Big Night with Stanley Tucci? You would love it.

181 posted on 06/06/2019 11:58:21 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Note how much of that “genius” disappeared after the Roman Empire. Gradual build-up over the millenia just as in the rest of Europe.

Guessing they left because of the high taxes the empire needed to keep the panem et circenses going for all the immigrant laborers. Some things never change.

182 posted on 06/06/2019 12:01:55 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: elteemike
Haven’t heard or read anyone (except Tony Soprano) use the expression “moolinyan” in a long time...Army buddies from Philly used it alatime...

That's because there's a big Italian Market there. Many outside of Philly don't know that expression, but I did hear it in the Spike Lee film about a New York pizzaria, Do the Right Thing.

"Moolinyan" is Sicilian slang for eggplant, also shortened in its plural form to "the moolies." It was a way for Italians to talk smack about black people without using the n-word. I explained this to an upper-class friend of mine from Naples, Italy, who had never heard of the expression. It must have emerged from the early Italian immigrant vegetable vendors in New York/Philly's Little Italys.

(The actual word for eggplant in standard Italian is melanzane = mel ahn ZAH neh.)

183 posted on 06/06/2019 12:12:29 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Chode

"Come again?"

184 posted on 06/06/2019 12:17:10 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: OddLane

What would happen if everyone were considered a person of color???


185 posted on 06/06/2019 12:24:49 PM PDT by Savage Beast (A Manichaean struggle between TRUTH and evil grips America. President Trump holds the Light of TRUTH)
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To: firebrand
Italian derogatory expressions are usually funny like that one. How about “ziti” for bridegrooms.

LOL, never heard that one in Philly. But I did hear, "He thinks he's pizza calda! (hot pizza!) or "He better be nice to her if he wants a little sugar on his cookie."

186 posted on 06/06/2019 12:29:05 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: dp0622
Anyone who compares mehico to Italy lives in a box.

I totally agree. However, see post 117.

187 posted on 06/06/2019 12:31:01 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Albion Wilde

Its true.

Those ####s


188 posted on 06/06/2019 12:42:13 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: max americana

Can’t beat Napolitan except for Andrew or Janet Napolitano. My former partner, a Napolitan, claimed that if you were from anywhere north of Rome in Italy, you were in reality a German.


189 posted on 06/06/2019 12:45:51 PM PDT by masadaman
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To: dirtymac; gubamyster
Actually white is the absence of color, Black is all of the colors combined

Your theory is true in the material world, such as mixing paint. (Actually more like dark brown.) But gubamyster's theory is correct in light beams: all colors mixed equals white and no colors equals black.

190 posted on 06/06/2019 12:45:54 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: A strike; Jewbacca
“At one time 1/4 of the Roman Empire was Jewish ...”

Jewbacca, you may be confusing the city of Rome with the entire Roman Empire. I would believe it about Rome and Venice, as cosmopolitan centers of trade; but not the entire Empire; unless, as "a strike" requested, you have a valid citation.

191 posted on 06/06/2019 12:48:57 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Fiji Hill
Haven’t heard Joe Dolce’s opus in years!

Sorry I posted a duplicate link before reading the whole thread!

192 posted on 06/06/2019 12:51:17 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: A strike
Please get help ASAP!

Unlike your posts, not a single post of mine "was/is stupid ignorance". Rather, I posted nothing but unassailable, uncontravertible fact.

Instead of riding your own biased, blinkered, benighted hobbyhorse, and completely ignoring every single thing I posted, and then demanding info that hasn't EVER been publicly available FOR MILLENNIA, go read up on this topic on your own!

193 posted on 06/06/2019 12:52:56 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Clemenza
Southern Italians, aka Terroni aka Arabs who eat pork maybe....

"Mezzogiornese" is also what I heard them called when I traveled through the southern regions.

194 posted on 06/06/2019 12:54:48 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: A strike
Your childish, unworthy, non-apology apology is not only NOT acceptable, it is a fine example of your putrid lack of discernment and competence!

YOU NOW OWN ME A REAL APOLOGY, FOR EVERY DUMB/STUPID/IRRELEVANT/UNEDUCATED THING YOU POSTED TO ME!

Unlike you, I absolutely DO know and understand history and yes, love it.

195 posted on 06/06/2019 1:01:37 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Fiji Hill
Louie Prima Che La Luna

Naughty lyrics! This one was shown at the opening wedding scene in The Godfather. The genteel naughtiness was mainly understood by the adults.

196 posted on 06/06/2019 1:02:06 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
LOL..oh yes it did refute you!

There was no such a thing as ITALY nor ITALIANS during the Ancient Roman Empire, nor was there such a thing for long after it fell. OTOH, in modern vernacular, there IS an Italy and Italians and so now, in the present, those who lived there long ago are called ITALIANS!

When Julius Caesar conquered France, THERE WAS NO FRANCE! Caesar called it GAUL and that area was populated by Germanic tribes; one of them being the Franks!

Picts lived in what is now Scotland, but when talking about Hadrian's Wall or other such things, we now say that these things and/or events took place in what is Scotland!

197 posted on 06/06/2019 1:09:03 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: the OlLine Rebel; A strike
And you cannot convince me Romans ARE “Italians”, per se. lots of Greeks moved into the south even in that time and I think that is the primary source of the “classic” Italian.

Italy was always several distinct regions— "The Three Kingdoms" of what would become today's geographical Italy did not unite until the early 19th century.

198 posted on 06/06/2019 1:11:24 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Albion Wilde

Thanks for the background...I’d heard of that usage of “eggplant”, but never used either term myself...

Most of the Philly guys I mentioned were from East Philly and of Irish ancestry, not Italian...

Language is so colorful, no pun intended...


199 posted on 06/06/2019 1:21:38 PM PDT by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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To: GOPsterinMA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP9VaP5qBgw


200 posted on 06/06/2019 1:31:11 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Who will think of the gerbils ? Just say no to Buttgiggity !)
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