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Well, berzerklee so.... Dear dean numbnutz. Please provide where in the constitution or bill of rights that abortion is guaranteed and is not to be infringed on. Patiently awaiting your elucidated response to a mere mortal dumbass.
1 posted on 05/28/2019 10:43:27 AM PDT by rktman
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Law Professor?! I wouldn’t let this guy mow my lawn much less listen to his legal opinions.


2 posted on 05/28/2019 10:46:44 AM PDT by albie
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Everything liberals are unhappy with is “unconstitutional.”

When the Constitution is at variance with what they want, they ignore it.


3 posted on 05/28/2019 10:47:30 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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The Constitution states that no one shall be deprived of life or liberty without due process.

Where is the baby’s day in court?


4 posted on 05/28/2019 10:48:12 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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UC Berkeley Law School Dean Erwin Chemerinsky argued last week that the recent Alabama abortion bill is “unconstitutional.”

This POS wouldn't know a constitution if it beat him severely about the head and shoulders, just to get his attention.

5 posted on 05/28/2019 10:50:27 AM PDT by Mark17 (What, exactly, was the "only evil continually," that was going on in the days of Noah?)
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Not possible!

Given that abortion has never been protected by the Constitution.

The "right to privacy" excuse to allow abortion is a Constitutional FRAUD.

7 posted on 05/28/2019 10:52:37 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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Show us where abortion >is< Constitutional.


8 posted on 05/28/2019 10:55:56 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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Gov’t sanctioned killing of the innocent is unconstitutional, perfesser dipsh**.


12 posted on 05/28/2019 11:01:13 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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The states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect the murder of unborn children as a right.
"The Constitution was written to be understood by the voters; its words and phrases were used in their normal and ordinary, as distinguished from technical, meaning; where the intention is clear, there is no room for construction and no excuse for interpolation or addition [emphasis added]." —United States v. Sprague, 1931.

Inexcusable controversies about the constitutionality of abortion persist because FDR’s state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices butchered 10th Amendment (10A)-protected state sovereignty when they wrongly decided Wickard v. Filburn in Congress’s favor imo.

In fact, using inappropriate words like "concept" and "implicit" here is what was left of 10A after FDR's justices scandalously "aborted" it in that case.

Patriots need to continue to support PDJT in draining the swamp out of the Supreme Court.

Remember in November 2020!

MAGA!

14 posted on 05/28/2019 11:06:37 AM PDT by Amendment10
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That’s unconstitutional. Do I have to guess what he thinks about 2nd amendment infringement?


15 posted on 05/28/2019 11:09:55 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary walks free, equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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Based on what?


18 posted on 05/28/2019 11:18:18 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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I suspect it may be too early to get Roe overruled. The Court is not going to change the law with nothing but a bare majority. It’s going to have to be at least 6-3, as it was with Roe. They currently don’t have a 6-3 majority.
We need another Trump appointee. If the issue comes up with only a 5-4 majority, then the District Court very likely will declare it unconstitutional, the circuit will affirm, and the S.Ct. will deny cert.


19 posted on 05/28/2019 11:18:25 AM PDT by Brilliant
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“Erwin Chemerinsky”

If you want a hard leftist legal opinion on anything, all you have to do is ask this clown. If you hear his name, you can give his viewpoint even before he opens his pie hole.


21 posted on 05/28/2019 11:25:25 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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“No state shall...deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

Amendment XIV

“These disciplines variously approached the question in terms of the point at which the embryo or fetus became ‘formed’ or recognizably human, or in terms of when a ‘person’ came into being, that is, infused with a ‘soul’ or ‘animated.’”

Roe v Wade, majority opinion

recognizably human - ~12 weeks
animated - ~5 to 6 weeks for a beating heart

“An AMA Committee on Criminal Abortion was appointed in May 1857. It presented its report, 12 Trans. of the Am. Med. Assn. 73-78 (1859), to the Twelfth Annual Meeting. That report observed that the Committee had been appointed to investigate criminal abortion ‘with a view to its general suppression.’ It deplored abortion and its frequency and it listed three causes of ‘this general demoralization’:

“The first of these causes is a wide-spread popular ignorance of the true character of the crime — a belief, even among mothers themselves, that the foetus is not alive till after the period of quickening.

“The second of the agents alluded to is the fact that the profession themselves are frequently supposed careless of foetal life . . . .

“The third reason of the frightful extent of this crime is found in the grave defects of our laws, both common and statute, as regards the independent and actual existence of the child before birth, as a living being. These errors, which are sufficient in most instances to prevent conviction, are based, and only based, upon mistaken and exploded medical dogmas. With strange inconsistency, the law fully acknowledges the foetus in utero and its inherent rights, for civil purposes; while personally and as criminally affected, it fails to recognize it, and to its life as yet denies all protection.”

Roe v Wade, majority opinion

Do note the terms “inherent rights”, “personally” and “protection” with respect to a fetus expressed in an AMA writing as of 1859, prior to Amendment XIV.


22 posted on 05/28/2019 11:26:02 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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not at all unconstitutional.
a ridiculous statement from Bezerkeley


25 posted on 05/28/2019 11:39:16 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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You best know of the concurring opinion of Justice Stewart:

“MR. JUSTICE STEWART, concurring.

“In 1963, this Court, in Ferguson v. Skrupa, 372 U.S. 726 , purported to sound the death knell for the doctrine of substantive due process, a doctrine under which many state laws had in the past been held to violate the Fourteenth Amendment. As Mr. Justice Black’s opinion for the Court in Skrupa put it: ‘We have returned to the original constitutional proposition that courts do not substitute their social and economic beliefs for the judgment of legislative bodies, who are elected to pass laws.’ Id., at 730. 1

“Barely two years later, in Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479 , the Court held a Connecticut birth control law unconstitutional. In view of what had been so recently said in Skrupa, the Court’s opinion in Griswold understandably did its best to avoid reliance on the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment as the ground for decision. Yet, the Connecticut law did not violate any provision of the Bill of Rights, nor any other specific provision of the Constitution.”

....

“’Certainly the interests of a woman in giving of her physical and emotional self during pregnancy and the interests that will be affected throughout her life by the birth and raising of a child are of a far greater degree of significance and personal intimacy than the right to send a child to private school protected in Pierce v. Society of Sisters, 268 U.S. 510 (1925), or the right to teach a foreign language protected in Meyer v. Nebraska, 262 U.S. 390 (1923).’ Abele v. Markle, 351 F. Supp. 224, 227 (Conn. 1972).”

Roe v Wade


27 posted on 05/28/2019 11:55:05 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Tell us Comrade, what part of the Constitution supports abortion?


29 posted on 05/28/2019 12:02:02 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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Strictly speaking, given CURRENT Supreme Court precedent, he is correct.

Will the US Supreme Court use this to do the constitutional thing and return abortion law to the states? I don’t know. I do feel 100% certain that 4 of the judges will vote it down. And I’m not confident on Roberts, Gorsuch or Kavanaugh.


30 posted on 05/28/2019 12:07:05 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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He is only a professor at UC Berkley. Not worth much!


33 posted on 05/28/2019 3:47:04 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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