Posted on 05/28/2019 9:29:14 AM PDT by McQ444
NORMAN, Okla. (Reuters) - Oklahoma’s attorney general on Tuesday argued at the start of the first trial in lawsuits around the United States over the opioid epidemic that “greed” by Johnson & Johnson helped fuel the drug crisis.Attorney General Mike Hunter made the claim in his opening statement in a state court in Norman, Oklahoma, at the start of the first trial to result from around 2,000 similar lawsuits against opioid manufacturers nationally.
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“You DO KNOW that they lost lawsuits because of lying about the addictiveness of their pills, right?”
Actually, no I am not aware of that. Please direct me to the documentation. As if winning a civil lawsuit is any criteria of righteousness. Spill hot coffee on yourself or fall through the skyight of the building you are burglarizing and a small group of ignorant democrats (a jury) will award you millions.
Agreed.
“when infact THEY - the states- are even more greedy”
“The Sacklers are greedy....now make them give us a billion dollars.”
It’s just going to get worse.
“I think opioids are a serious problem.”
Conflating the medical necessity of prescription painkillers with illegal drugs in the same pot.
“...No doubt if opioids were more restricted..”
How much more restricted do you want them? They are already schedule 2.
This is a multifactorial issue for sure. But I also know that lawsuits were occurring in the early 2000’s that started holding doctors criminally liable for undertreating patients pain. This coincided with a surge in CME’s and attention about pain management.
This is a must read for anyone who is trying to piece this “opioid epidemic” together. Especially, read the last paragraph.
Lawsuits, everything is always about lawsuits.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1071521/
But over prescribed. Of course open borders is a big enemy and the Chinese Fentanyl.
The bottom line is it causes crime to skyrocket.
[[But I also know that lawsuits were occurring in the early 2000’s that started holding doctors criminally liable for undertreating patients pain.]]
That i s right around the time the ‘pain chart’ (with the smiley and frowning faces) started showing up i believe- with the words “Are you in pain? Tell the doctor, we have methods to help” or somethign liek that
I don’t remember seeing those charts before then- maybe my memory is hazy on that-
I did. You said the states just want a payday and I say they are entitled.
These Pharma companies engaged in full on criminal activity, they are no different than the MOB other than the fact they already had the political elites in their back pocket, so they never had to worry about the Feds coming for them.
They knew their stuff was addictive and deadly, they lied to everyone about it, they knew they were creating addicts, and didn’t care... Only thing different between what they did to America and what Japan did to China is, the money from creating the opioid addicts wasn’t funding a foreign nations war machine.
These execs should be impaled and their bodies left to rot in the sun for carrion to eat.
They should be gutted and fed their own entrails until they expire.
Let God have mercy on their soul, they deserve none in this world.
The issue is that these companies filled orders for 100000 scripts in communities with, say 5,000 people living there.
Yup!
That’s a yuge problem, too.
Doctor’s over prescribed these medications..
“But over prescribed.”
That is a generalization. Who is to say? In the legitimate use in medicine, it is a person to person and doctor to doctor thing depending on the type and level of pain. I just don’t want to see the usual blanket big government one size fits all approach to what is an individual proposition.
they aren’t entitled to it- they are falsely stating that prescription drug overdose is an ‘epidemic’ yet less than 2% of people on prescription opioids becomes addicted- far more people become ‘addicted’ to alcohol- yet noone is declaring an ‘epidemic’ despite deaths by alcohol, drunk driving, failing livers- etc-
This isn’t a ‘war on drugs’, this is a war on pain patients, and drug manufacturers- and you and i both know the states want a hell of a lot more than they think they are ‘entitled’ to- They are gaming the system, over exaggeration the ‘crisis’ by including drug deaths that have absolutely zero to do with legal drug prescriptions- and cherry picking evidence to make it look like the whole medical profession was in on the scam to get people addicted- when the fact is VERY FEW legally prescribed opioids result in death- less than 2% infact- more people die from simply falling than die from legal opioids, and noone is claiming that falling has become an ‘epidemic’ for crying out loud-
“Hell without the opioid epidemic we’d need half or less of the cops we have now.”
The opioid problem could be dealt with very quickly by nailing our southern border shut as tight as Dick’s hat band. End of story.
Here in Virginia doctors no longer prescribe opiods for long term pain patients.
By state law all pain patients have to enroll in a Pain Management Therapy scam. And it really is a scam as most insurance doesn’t cover it.
So a patient pays out of pocket to be drug tested every month, told their pain isn’t as bad as they think it is and they just want the high, and prescribed something that doesn’t approach doing the job.
Meanwhile heroin and fentanyl flows into the country like water under a bridge.
The same drug dealers who used to get oxy here in the states are selling oxy of questionable purity that comes from Mexico/China/wherever at TRIPLE the price they used to get.
Going after legally prescribed opiods was the lowest of the low hanging fruit. Virtue signaling and vote pandering by politicians who then moved on to the next hot button topic.
and by the way- these same greedy states that are railing against a fictional ‘legal opioid epidemic’, and feel they are ‘entitled to’ billions, turn right around legalize pot- which contrary to claims that it’s safe, DOES lead people to harder and harder drugs-
So, if these states feel opioid manufacturers can be held liable for a person who started with legal opioids, then went to harder drugs, and died, then these states themselves can be held accountable for a pot smoker who goes on to harder drugs and dies- and for the state NOT warning people about the potential dangers of pot smoking which also include possible cancer as smoking things like pot has carcinogens in it- but nope- you won’t see the states being sued for this anymore than you will for the states being sued for allowing legal sales of alcohol- but by golly they can sue the hell out of drug and tobacco manufacturers feeling they are ‘entitled to’ billions of dollars?
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