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To: Swordmaker

I guess then it’s the conspiracy theory you like the best since there are several of them out there.


143 posted on 05/14/2019 6:40:25 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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I guess then it’s the conspiracy theory you like the best since there are several of them out there.

When the government goes to extreme lengths to avoid the eyewitness testimony and to obfuscate what they do have to present to the NTSB, then there is something there. I’ve read every single one of their statements. Have you? I thought not. I have also looked at all of the photos of the CWT and do not see the evidence of an explosion of enough force to knock the 77,000 pound nose off the 747. . . And I did the math that shows the plane could not have flown another foot, much less zoom climbed an additional 3600 ft (CIA) or just 1600 ft (NTSB) with NO ENGINE POWER (per Boeing and the black boxes). Without the nose, it stalled and then dropped in a ballistic fall. That’s what the math says, and that’s what the wreckage location says happened. NOT what the NTSB or CIA zoom climbs would have happened in either case to have the witnesses see a trail of the burning plane climbing and mistake it for a rocket trail.

Here is an excerpt from the testimony of a pilot who was in the air and observed something STRIKE the plane. . . A trained observer, Major Fred Meyer, of the New York National Guard, a helicopter pilot who was the first person on the scene of the burning plane on the ocean after witnessing the explosion.

Testimony of Major Frederick Charles Meyer, Pilot, H-60 Helicoptor, New York National Guard, Witness to TWA-800:

“I looked up and to my — slightly to my left front , and I saw a streak of light. “

“I saw to — in front of me and slightly to my left of dead front I saw a streak of light in the sky. I have no idea what it was. And my reaction when I saw it was, what the hell is that?

I observed of for somewhere in approximately three to five seconds moving in a gradually descending arc — sort of a gentle descending trajectory. Similar to that which you would observe at night if you observed a shooting star. The difference is that it was red-orange in color and it was broad daylight. It was as bright then as it is right now looking out that window. It was broad daylight.

And there were no clouds in the sky — absloutely cloudless night. Other people have told me there was some haze. If there was, it was very minimal.

I observed the streak of light for three to five seconds. And then I saw an explosion. And about one to two seconds after that I saw a second, and possibly a third, explosion. Now, these were hard explosions. This looked like flak. It’s a hard explosion. It’s like an HPX explosion, as opposed to a soft explosion like gasoline, or something.

How do I know that? Well, I’m recalling back 20, 25 years. And I put — if— if I observe something in the air in Vietnam, different things exploding did different characteristics.

Somebody would have to be more technical. That’s — that’s as much as I can tell you, is that some things are hard explosions. They’re gen — they, to me, resemble anti-aircraft fire and other things are soft explosions; like if you saw somebody hit a fuel storage depot, the type of explosion that would occur there would be slow.

What I saw were — and I want to — I want to step back and tell you that at no time during what I observed did I ever see the airframe. I never saw anything that told me there was an airplane out there. So, the streak of light, I saw the explosion about one to two seconds — second and poss — just a little — there’s something in my mind’s eye that says there was a little something — for want of a better term — maybe a nanosecond after that second explosion.

And then, from that approximate position emanated this fireball, which was a soft explosion. And it was definitely petroleum. If you’ve ever seen a — I — I did not fly attac; I flew rescue. But I was in position to observe A-4s and F-4s hitting storage depots and watching the color of a storage depot that’s being hit and exploding and blowing up. And I knew at that moment — of course, we all know now — but I knew at that moment that that was a petroleum explosion.

And that fireball — you know, it — it was huge. It was easily four fingers, at my extended arm’s length. I looked over here at — at — on my right and I had the setting sun. Now, the sun was just maybe a couple of degrees — the lower orb of the setting sun was bright red, and it was probably just a couple of degrees about the horizon at the time this happened. And at that time I estimated the size that this fireball grew to to be approximately four times the size of the sun. So, I can’t give you degrees and I can’t — all I can do is give you relativity.

I didn’t put my hand out in front of me at the time so I can’t really tell you that it was four fingers. But it was — it was probably even bigger than that. It was probably the spread of the hand across the windshield. And at that time it was somewhere between 10 and 13 miles away. . . “

There were at least two other airline pilots in the sky that night who saw something rise up and hit the airframe of TWA-800 but their testimony was not presented to the NTSB, instead they were subsumed into a summary by the FBI, like Major Meyers and “interpreted” out of any semblance of coherence. It was only years later and FOIA suits that the raw data came out.

By the way, the total number of witnesses who saw something rise up and hit the plane is over 600. . . and they saw the incident from almost 360º around the incident. It was a pleasant evening and a lot of people were out and about and saw it.

You can believe the propaganda if you like, but I don’t. It was not the Center Wing Tank. To believe that you have to believe too many impossible to physics and math and accept too many irregularities with the investigation that have never happened before or since in an NTSB investigation. My father was a civilian expert who worked until his retirement for the Air Force and was involved in many air crash investigations. He was livid about the phony investigation of TWA-800 and the coverup.

149 posted on 05/14/2019 7:40:16 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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