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How Yesterday’s Aeroflot Disaster Echoes the 737 Max Crashes
NY Mag ^ | May 2019 | Jeff Wise

Posted on 05/06/2019 5:23:39 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

An Aeroflot passenger jet burst into flames during an emergency landing at Moscow’s Sheremetyevo airport yesterday, resulting in a conflagration that left 41 of 78 people aboard the plane dead.

While the plane was not a Boeing and did not involve a control system like the one implicated in the recent crashes of Lionair Flight 610 and Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302, the overall circumstances eerily echo the conditions that led to the loss of the two 737 Max jets. In all three cases, pilots suffered a dangerous and unexpected emergency during takeoff, lost the automation that they were used to relying on, and lacked the necessary skills to adequately handle the ensuing crisis. As such, these crashes illustrate the dangers of poorly integrating human and automatic control...

“A constant theme of mine is that designers of electronic systems on airplanes assume that if something goes wrong, pilots will calmly take over,” says aviation journalist and aircraft designer Peter Garrison. “That’s not what happens. The first reaction is bafflement.”

One solution to the problem would be to make sure that pilots have more training and more flight experience. That’s not the direction the world is moving, however. Global air traffic has surged in recent years...For plane makers, the challenge will be to make planes that can be flown safely by less-qualified pilots, but that also won’t dump those pilots into tough-to-handle crises when the systems malfunction.

(Excerpt) Read more at nymag.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: aeroflot; automation; aviation; boeing; boeing737max; sukkhoi
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

How many plane crashes have happened the past couple weeks? It seems like a ton :(


21 posted on 05/06/2019 10:52:44 PM PDT by terart
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

their training is substandard, to say the least. they’ve had maintenance issues for years — and recall that the original problem here is probably a malfunctioning sensor.

then understand that the 737 was a brand new plane for them, and you realize that their organizational deficiencies were exactly where you don’t want them in a new airliner. by the way, this exact same bunch of clowns set their first 787 on fire shortly after they got it.

it should probably tell you something when you find yourself defending a third world airline against the premier aircraft manufacturer on planet earth.


22 posted on 05/06/2019 11:03:26 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: JohnBrowdie

I fly domestically mainly and have never taken an Ethiopian Air flight sweetie. I want Boeing to stay the premiere maker it is, as I frequently fly on their planes without any choice. I also want America to be ‘Great Again,’ but like many other once great institutions in this country, Boeing has rotted and gone way downhill. And yet here you are defending them like a zombie.


23 posted on 05/06/2019 11:07:55 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I agree that automation makes people lazy and unprepared, and sometimes incompetent, but in the case of Russia, it’s likely that the pilots had military training and at least were competent...at least when they were younger. Who knows after 20 years though.


24 posted on 05/06/2019 11:14:22 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I’m not defending anyone. I’m attacking an attacker or two for being idiotic.


25 posted on 05/06/2019 11:50:47 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

The similarity is just what the author speaks to: the flight crews were not properly trained to handle the emergency!


26 posted on 05/07/2019 8:52:01 AM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: A strike

And you base that opinion on what facts?

Peter Garrison sure does, and if Peter Garrison says something aviation related is so, it is!


27 posted on 05/07/2019 9:31:37 AM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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