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1 posted on 04/17/2019 11:40:49 AM PDT by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander

I still remember my prof in Statistics 101:

Statistics NEVER give you an answer, at best, they give you another question.


2 posted on 04/17/2019 11:43:31 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Heartlander

This example is why so many ‘scientist study shows’ papers cannot be reproduced. The data is ‘interpreted’ to get the result that the researcher wants. Further, often the question is framed so that the results are predetermined prior to the data being obtained.

Raw data that may invalidate the results need not apply.


3 posted on 04/17/2019 11:45:50 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: Heartlander

I remember Global Warmists argued that hurricanes were getting worse because of the number of people impacted by them. But they ignored the fact that one hurricane hitting a major population center will shoe more people impacted than several WORSE hurricanes in unpopulated areas.


5 posted on 04/17/2019 11:49:55 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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6 posted on 04/17/2019 11:51:02 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Heartlander

The dots seem to form a kitty, Doctor.


7 posted on 04/17/2019 11:51:02 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Heartlander

Plus the internet is full of shitposters who are deliberately flooding Big Data with garbage, sarcasm, trolling, and other things not easily detected by algorithm.


8 posted on 04/17/2019 11:54:15 AM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: Heartlander

State universities LIVE on this. Only an average of 18 students per class... but 90% of your classes are lecture-center classes with 300 students!


10 posted on 04/17/2019 12:20:46 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Heartlander

I did a research paper for my MBA on cluster analysis. I took all privately owned sports teams and clustered them. I used Yes/No criteria to minimize subjectivity and bias. Twenty one variables included bought or inherited team, championship or not, wealth came from manufacturing or service industries, etc.

I got six clusters that indicated that owners who got their wealth from manufacturing and bought the team were most successful.

A similar study for bank profitability showed little clustering based on bank deposits, office space, age or other variables.


12 posted on 04/17/2019 1:00:48 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Heartlander

Good example:

My daughter is a Registered Nurse. She works in a hospital.
While a teenager she worked at a local restaurant called Eat n’ Park. That is a Pittsburgh area chain. The company that owns it is called The Eat n’ Park Hospitality Group.

My daughter has not lived at home in a decade. Despite this I get fistfuls of junk mail trying to sell computers and things addressed to my daughter, at the “Eat n’ Park Hospital Group”, which is apparently headquartered in my modest house in suburban Pittsburgh.

Data mining and AI obviously put some pieces together in a very incorrect way.


13 posted on 04/17/2019 1:12:24 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Heartlander
yes, they pay me to analyze data and make decisions based on my judgement at the time ..
winner winner chicken dinner
14 posted on 04/17/2019 1:46:39 PM PDT by ßuddaßudd ((>> M A G A << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Heartlander

Reminds me of Jim Bouton in Ball Four when he was in contract negotiations and management was listing all of the “bad” statistics from the prior year. His response was “Tell Your Statistics to Shut up!”.

Always loved that one!


15 posted on 04/17/2019 2:15:39 PM PDT by Pendergast (I'm new and I don't have one!)
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To: Heartlander

It always gets back to the base rate.....


16 posted on 04/17/2019 4:38:48 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Heartlander
Data viewed in the aggregate can suggest very different properties than the same data, examined in more detail,

If you divide data into arbitrary groups one can get whatever interpretation one wishes.

20 posted on 04/18/2019 6:02:49 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Heartlander

Why didn’t he continue with the baseball references? You can outscore the other team 50-7 over a five-game series. But you still lose the series if it goes like this:

- 1-0
- 0-30
- 0-17
- 4-2
- 2-1


21 posted on 04/24/2019 9:42:13 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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