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Roy Moore leads in Alabama Senate poll
CBS News ^ | April 16, 2019 | Grace Segers

Posted on 04/16/2019 3:11:16 PM PDT by Trump20162020

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To: DiogenesLamp

Every one is entitled to his/her opinion. Ours differs particularly on his
giving up and not campaigning the last few days of the campaign.

IMO if he had taken his truck, hooked up his trailer with two
horses and him and his wife traveled across AL stopping at
small to medium size towns. Getting the horses out, ride thru
the main street and say hello to the citizenry then he may have
got lucky and picked up the 12,000 he lost by.

But what we know for sure is that Moore disappeared for the last
few days immediately prior to election day and didn’t try.

Your opinion varies but such is your right. Have a good one.


81 posted on 04/16/2019 6:03:38 PM PDT by deport
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To: Zenjitsuman; LucyT
Paul Ryan and Mitch joined forces to defeat Moore last time out.

This time, if Moore wants to win, he needs to get some professional help. He is the ultimate solid Conservative.

If a harder core better Conservative is in the race, he ought to stake out a position to the right of Moore and should be supported. Absent that, Moore should be the preferred candidate.

Stick to the issues. Ignore the smear. Get some support from women in his age group and campaign on the issues that count like taxes, Judiciary, immigration, etc.

82 posted on 04/16/2019 6:57:11 PM PDT by David
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To: Newbomb Turk

The wife was the least of that campaign’s problems...but yeah, tip o’ the hat.


83 posted on 04/16/2019 7:59:36 PM PDT by CharleysPride (Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Thank you, President Trump.)
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To: billorites
No we won’t. The republican candidates are not even making a noise yet. I will admit that I supported Roy last time because I assumed he had a better statewide chance over Mo Brooks. Not again. Roy laid down and tried to coast to the election 3 months out. Pathetic. I will drag Mo Brooks over the finish line personally. Dougie Jones is soon unemployed. Bank on it.

Just a thought - north Alabama is overrun with our of state newcomers. Came for the high tech jobs but still vote communist. New jersey, California, Oregon, Washington, Colorado and Virginia. ..... so the vote can flip

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/alabama-senate-special-election-roy-moore-doug-jones

This should not have been this close. 2 visits by by PDJT in north and middle Alabama guartees a flip.

84 posted on 04/16/2019 8:14:41 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens)
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To: bagster

Flak jackets appear to be de rigeur these days...


85 posted on 04/16/2019 9:49:36 PM PDT by karnage
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To: Alberta's Child

“Moore had nobody to blame but himself for his 2017 loss. He was an awful candidate to begin with, and his disgraceful antics in previous GOP primaries pretty much ensured that the party leadership would work hard to undermine him.”

All very true! And to make things even worse, the GOPe supported that scum sucker Luther Strange because the disgraced outgoing AL Governor, Bentley had appointed him to the seat when Beauregard Sessions “ascended” to the office of Attorney General (from whence he commenced to f*ck President Trump for two years)! Alabama needs to get with the program after “giving the country” Sessions, Strange, Moore and Jones, all of whom are crap people. A decent Senator here would help the Republicans “blunt” the efforts of their two nutball women, Murky and Collins.


86 posted on 04/16/2019 10:22:41 PM PDT by vette6387 (Try Pelosi for Treason)
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To: David

“This time, if Moore wants to win, he needs to get some professional help.”

Yeah, a good Psychiatrist, he’s a loon masquerading as a Republican.


87 posted on 04/16/2019 10:24:18 PM PDT by vette6387 (Try Pelosi for Treason)
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To: wgmalabama

“I will drag Mo Brooks over the finish line personally. “

Perfect! Good for You! No more Moore!


88 posted on 04/16/2019 10:26:12 PM PDT by vette6387 (Try Pelosi for Treason)
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To: DiogenesLamp
When you are as far ahead of your opponent as Roy Moore was against Dough Jones for most of the year, there is no benefit to debating him.

Moore's excuse was that he wouldn't debate Jones because of his stance on "gay marriage." That right there cost Moore a ton of credibility -- because he came across as a coward, and is hardly the stance a deeply religious man should be taking in those circumstances.

Some of us liked the fact that he told Federal Judges to go f*** themselves on the Ten Commandments.

I did, too. But that's called "voting in an echo chamber" -- because that sort of thing actually TURNS OFF most voters.

89 posted on 04/17/2019 4:33:48 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: deport
Your opinion varies but such is your right. Have a good one.

You too.

90 posted on 04/17/2019 7:52:11 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Alberta's Child
Moore's excuse was that he wouldn't debate Jones because of his stance on "gay marriage." That right there cost Moore a ton of credibility -- because he came across as a coward, and is hardly the stance a deeply religious man should be taking in those circumstances.

West Point Graduate Vietnam combat veteran. Don't think he is a coward.

He's just wired different. You may not be familiar with evangelistic religious types, but I am, and some of them have strange ideas compared to the mainstream.

I did, too. But that's called "voting in an echo chamber" -- because that sort of thing actually TURNS OFF most voters.

It turns off the middle squishy voters, and it only does so because the media system is constantly telling them that being for God and country is extremist.

I've been telling people for years our primary enemy is the media system of Democrat liars/manipulators of the news.

I hope Moore does not run again, but I am somewhat afraid that he will. I think he will feel it is the only way he can redeem himself in the eyes of the public, and I think he feels it is important that someone with his beliefs gets into the Senate.

Mo Brooks is the more palatable candidate, and let's hope things just work out that way.

91 posted on 04/17/2019 8:02:36 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

“...and I think he feels it is important that someone with his beliefs gets into the Senate. ....”

Someone with that level of certainty he’s indispensable is very dispensable and not likely to win!


92 posted on 04/17/2019 8:11:47 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Trump20162020

The “nonsense” of being a Republican that lost a statewide race in Alabama in 2017?

Do you really want Doug Jones until 2026? CNBC ranked Doug Jones as the most likely Senate incumbent to lose his or her seat in 2020, that changes if the Stupid Party blesses him by nominating Roy Moore again.


Why are you so comfortable with the GOP openly campaigning against Moore to elect a DEMOCRAT? Have you lost your mind?

Do you really want GOP Senator Shelby campaigning for a Democrat and sending more stinking piles of garbage immigration bills to POTUS’s desk? Apparently, the answer is yes.

We simply can not let the Chamber of Commerce GOPe pick our primary candidates and/or campaign against them in the general. Party loyalty must be a two way street or the GOP will die. You are whistling past the graveyard on this one. Conservatives are no longer serfs on the GOP plantation. POTUS and Never Trumpism has changed that calculus forever.


93 posted on 04/17/2019 8:21:08 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: David

Paul Ryan and Mitch joined forces to defeat Moore last time out.


Not just that. The 83 year old GOP senior Senator from Alabama barnstormed the state on election eve campaigning for the Democrat. I was gobsmacked at that betrayal. If that doesn’t show you where the careerist GOP loyalties are nothing will. They prefer Democrats to GOP primary voters!


94 posted on 04/17/2019 8:23:23 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: DiogenesLamp

I don’t question Moore’s character, but I believe he is completely unsuited for a legislative position. A judicial post was a perfect role for him, and perhaps he could be a solid governor as well. An uncompromising personality has no place in a committee environment.


95 posted on 04/17/2019 8:38:19 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: Alberta's Child
An uncompromising personality has no place in a committee environment.

I have long felt that too many of our Congressmen and Senators are all too willing to compromise when they shouldn't.

I think it is this perception of Moore as someone who would be unwilling to go along with the game in Washington that triggered establishment Washington's efforts to see him defeated.

96 posted on 04/17/2019 8:46:16 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Alberta's Child

An uncompromising personality has no place in a committee environment.


On the contrary. Sometimes a bomb needs to be thrown and/or an alarm be sounded on a beltway uniparty sell out of the GOP base. Like when Senator Shelby is crafting a stinking pile of garbage immigration bill with no intention of advancing the GOP platform he was elected to support. I bet Doug Jones was just thrilled with the GOPe carrying K Street’s water and selling out it’s base voters on immigration.


97 posted on 04/17/2019 10:24:56 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: DiogenesLamp

I think Moore destroyed his political career when he carried out his personal temper tantrum against the GOP in his two previous primary races for governor. After that, the guy had no reason to expect any support whatsoever from the party’s leadership.


98 posted on 04/17/2019 10:56:38 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: lodi90

Between Richard Shelby and Luther Strange and Jeff Sessions and Roy Moore, I must say that the Alabama officials who have gotten national attention over the last few years have been almost uniformly pathetic.


99 posted on 04/17/2019 10:59:36 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: Alberta's Child
I think Moore destroyed his political career when he carried out his personal temper tantrum against the GOP in his two previous primary races for governor.

And that may be true.

After that, the guy had no reason to expect any support whatsoever from the party’s leadership.

Except for the fact that the primary voters selected him. What is the national party leadership, a veto committee for voters that don't go the way they want them to go?

They never should have been so quick to embrace the lie. At the very least they should have given him the presumption of innocence until some proof came out. Making a big splash at pulling his funding was just wrong. It made it appear to everyone that they regarded him as guilty of the accusations.

Had they simply said they stood behind him until he's had a chance at "due process", they wouldn't have looked inept, or like they had been stampeded into this action by a deceitful press weapon.

Yes, they put his funding back, but the damage was done.

100 posted on 04/17/2019 11:13:01 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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