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GAME OF THRONES S08E01 CHITCHAT THREAD
4/14/19 | mahhhty

Posted on 04/14/2019 8:35:17 AM PDT by martin_fierro

It is known.


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: gameofthrones; got; itisknown
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To: BeauBo

They probably filmed several different endings and everyone went through at least one “death” scene. The very last episode may not even be edited yet, just to make sure know one knows the absolute, final winner(s).


61 posted on 04/14/2019 12:18:56 PM PDT by BradyLS (ODO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: martin_fierro

Will we see Hodor and Uncle Benjen return as white walkers this season?


62 posted on 04/14/2019 12:34:31 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Altura Ct.

Cookies are coming! (They’re already here!)


63 posted on 04/14/2019 12:39:59 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: martin_fierro

My vote is for Arya to rule the 7 kingdoms with Needle affixed on the top of the iron throne.


64 posted on 04/14/2019 12:41:39 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( Wake me when a prominent democrat gets prosecuted. ))))
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To: PGR88

“The first episode not to have an “adult content” warning.”

Hopefully the rest of the series will be no homo.


65 posted on 04/14/2019 12:42:50 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: BeauBo

Hot Pie becomes king of the Iron Throme!


66 posted on 04/14/2019 12:43:52 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: martin_fierro
At the end of season 3, Gendry must have looked like this guy:


67 posted on 04/14/2019 12:45:54 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: wardaddy

Would that make Jon the father of his cousin and Kalisi the mother of her grand nephew?


68 posted on 04/14/2019 12:48:07 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: BeauBo

That teaser with the statues of Jon, Sansa, and Arya doesn’t mean anything, though. It was just a promo commercial and was shot completely separate from the show.

And they sometimes edit the teaser / trailers so they don’t give any critical information away.


69 posted on 04/14/2019 12:52:51 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Rebelbase
Would that make Jon the father of his cousin and Kalisi the mother of her grand nephew?

I am my own Grandpa.

70 posted on 04/14/2019 1:00:55 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation has ended!)
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To: BeauBo
the longest battle scene in television history

God save us, but He probably won't. This will be the most tedious episode of the series. Heck, they could've hired Peter Jackson to direct. Then season 8 could consist of one long unbroken battle scene stretching over six episodes, with the handful of survivors coming back in season 9 to wrap things up. That would give GRRM another year or two to get a book done.

The Game of Thrones series has a mixed record on battle scenes. Several have been pretty good, but the Battle of the Bastards was embarrassingly bad. When it comes to filming big, sprawling, medieval butchery, less is more.

As to predictions: the big question is whether the showrunners are any longer attached to the book canon. If they are, the prophecies should come into play. The big ones include the Prince Who Was Promised, "the dragon has three heads," and a lot of lore concerning Azor Ahai. The show has seemingly drifted away from the mythic lore of the books but GRRM might have yanked it back in line for the grand finale. It would take some narrative forcefeeding to catch up in this department, but if they're going to waste a quarter of the time remaining on pointless and repetitive battle scenes, maybe they could invest a few minutes in plot development.

A stray thought: if the dragon must have three heads -- and why else did Dany get three dragons way back in season one? -- the gifting of a dragon to the Night King creates a big problem. That seems to have been done as a deus ex machina trick to get the White Walker army past the wall. I wonder if GRRM had a better method in mind (which we may still see in the books), but the showrunners are cutting corners. So: Bran is a warg as well as a greenseer. Could Bran warg into the Night King's dragon at the penultimate moment? That would knit several story lines together very neatly, but it's also too big a piece of magical force majeure to be sprung as a complete surprise in the final ten minutes of an eight year long series. That would violate the Law of Magical Integrity. I kinda like the idea, however, provided the showrunners take adequate time setting it up. Bran has already warged into his direwolf and into Hodor. There is precedent. It needs to be refreshed and expanded.

How's that for a plot twist, if GRRM is still interested in those?

Tyrion would have been the other obvious candidate for hidden Targ and third dragon rider, but Tyrion's chances took a big hit when Viserion changed sides. It would take some rather elaborate and arbitrary plot improvisation to get Tyrion onto Viserion at this point.

Another plot twist: Cersei will disappear into the northern wastes and fog-shrouded mystery as consort to the Night King. She will become the evil witch of children's stories in Westeros for another six thousand years. After all, the battle between good and evil never ends. Yes, Maggy the Frog prophesied Cersei's death at the hands of her valonqar. So Cersei will die. But why should that be a hindrance to the Night King and his consort?

As to who lives and who dies among our cast of favorites, who knows? It's GRRM's story. He can do anything he wants. He delights in killing fan favorites. Will he kill his own favorites? Melisandre told Varys that they both were fated to die in Westeros. She didn't say when, but the context suggests that they are not going to survive the current war. As far as I know, however, no one else still alive has a prophetic fatwa out on him -- except, maybe … well, if the Azor Ahai prophecy is operative, Azor Ahai may need Nissa Nissa.

The lazy interpretation would suggest that either Jon or Dany needs to die at the other's hand, but if Jon is Azor Ahai, Arya could be Nissa Nissa. I don't know that Nissa Nissa needs to be Azor Ahai's spouse; the idea is that she is the one Azor Ahai most dearly loves. Arya might qualify, and it would be a suitably GRRMish ending for her. Arya would volunteer for it. And it would solve the problem of leaving Arya, a trained, ruthless assassin with blood on her hands, dangling pointlessly in Westeros with the Faceless Men hunting her down. If Jon couldn't bear to kill Arya, the Hound could step up. Or Brienne. Or Samwell Tarly (!!!). Or even Jaqen H'ghar, ensuring that Arya paid her debt to the Many Faced God. Lightbringer's blade has to be tempered. Does Azor Ahai have to do the deed personally? How 'bout them apples?

I don't really care what GRRM does as long as he leaves Arya alive. I want her to marry Gendry and live happily ever after, which is the way good stories are supposed to end. So I suppose Arya is doomed.

Alternatively, the showrunners are no longer committed to the canon, and we will get a slam-bam action movie finish, suitable for translation into a series of video games and action figures. But I hope they do better than that.

71 posted on 04/14/2019 1:25:35 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: sphinx

My theory is that Cersei’s valonqar (the “little brother”) is her unborn child. It will die in her womb and then claw its way out to reach its new master. This after she has betrayed humanity itself to save what’s left of her family and legacy.


72 posted on 04/14/2019 1:39:31 PM PDT by Tangerine Time Machine (Orange you glad it's not a lemon?)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Every major character except Cersei will be killed off by the final episode. Cersei will win.

I had this weird thought that the Ice King wins, and Cersei is sitting next to him as an Ice Queen.

73 posted on 04/14/2019 2:17:23 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: martin_fierro

GoT ping. Bring it! Can’t wait for this thing to get rolling.


74 posted on 04/14/2019 3:52:28 PM PDT by bluejean (I'm becoming a cranky old person. It really annoys me.)
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To: Rebelbase

75 posted on 04/14/2019 4:35:29 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Zeneta

What time will Game of Thrones be available on Amazon / HBO?


76 posted on 04/14/2019 4:39:24 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: PGR88

And it cost them a reported 100 million dollars.


77 posted on 04/14/2019 4:40:04 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: BeauBo

I wonder if the undead brother could be turned into a wight.


78 posted on 04/14/2019 4:40:58 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Rebelbase

Dany is Jon’s half aunt.


79 posted on 04/14/2019 4:43:14 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: martin_fierro

“Cry ‘Havoc!’, and let slip the dire wolves of war”.


80 posted on 04/14/2019 4:47:18 PM PDT by windsorknot
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