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The Cold War Ides of March US Cold Warriors escalate toward actual war with Russia.
The Nation ^ | March 20, 2019 | Stephen F. Cohen

Posted on 03/21/2019 9:35:22 PM PDT by NorseViking

Heedless of the consequences, or perhaps welcoming them, America’s Cold Warriors and their media platforms have recently escalated their rhetoric against Russia, especially in March. Anyone who has lived through or studied the preceding 40-year Cold War will recognize the ominous echoes of its most dangerous periods, when actual war was on the horizon or a policy option. Here are only a few random but representative examples:

§ In a March 8 Washington Post opinion article, two American professors, neither with any apparent substantive knowledge of Russia or Cold War history, warned that the Kremlin is trying “to undermine our trust in the institutions that sustain a strong nation and a strong democracy. The media, science, academia and the electoral process are all regular targets.” Decades ago, J. Edgar Hoover, the policeman of that Cold War, said the same, indeed made it an operational doctrine.

§ Nor is the purported threat to America only. According to (retired) Gen. David Petraeus and sitting Senator Sheldon Whitehouse, also in the Post on the following day, the “world is once again polarized between two competing visions for how to organize society.” For Putin’s Kremlin, “the existence of the United States’ rule-of-law world is intrinsically threatening.” This is an “intensifying worldwide struggle.” So much for those who dismissed post–Soviet Russia as merely a “regional” power, including former President Barack Obama, and for the myopic notion that a new Cold War was not possible.

§ But the preceding Cold War was driven by an intense ideological conflict between Soviet Communism and Western capitalism. Where is the ideological threat today, considering that post–Soviet Russia is also a capitalist country? In a perhaps unprecedented nearly 10,000-word manifesto from March 14 in the front news pages of (again) the Post, Robert Kagan provided the answer: “Today, authoritarianism has

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1 posted on 03/21/2019 9:35:22 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

China is growing rapidly.

Not Russia. China.


2 posted on 03/21/2019 9:39:20 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123

Good point. Also the people pushing CWII are profiting from China.


3 posted on 03/21/2019 9:41:10 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

You like posting from Marxist rags?


4 posted on 03/21/2019 9:54:57 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: NorseViking

Anything from The Nation is socialist propaganda


5 posted on 03/21/2019 9:55:50 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: NorseViking

Putin needs to ignore nutty democrats and their weird rants... it’s was we try to do.


6 posted on 03/21/2019 9:58:58 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: ifinnegan

Correct me if I am wrong but I have seen people posting from the Nation here and it doesn’t seem like prohibited by the rules here. Content of the article is up to discussion, of course. You might disagree with its points and put your thoughts here. Isn’t it how the forum works?


7 posted on 03/21/2019 9:59:19 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Actually, I think they are more interested in a proxy war fought in Venezuela.


8 posted on 03/21/2019 10:00:32 PM PDT by Trumpnado2016 (Welcome to Trump World.)
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To: NorseViking

Steve Cohen was pushing the same Lin during the Cold War. I used to think he was a Marxist. I guess it’s clear he’s just a garden variety Russophile.


9 posted on 03/21/2019 10:00:37 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Praxeologue

“” “” Anything from The Nation is socialist propaganda””” “

I mentioned the left lean in their publication but this exact article is more critical to Democrats. If you disagree with its points your explanation will be appreciated.


10 posted on 03/21/2019 10:02:17 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Zhang Fei

Lin=thing

The vagaries of mobile spell check.


11 posted on 03/21/2019 10:03:05 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

“” “” Steve Cohen was pushing the same Lin during the Cold War. I used to think he was a Marxist. I guess it’s clear he’s just a garden variety Russophile.”” “”

I understand you don’t like the messenger. What about topic? Do you support CWII or not or maybe have a third variant.


12 posted on 03/21/2019 10:04:58 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: GOPJ

That’s one take on it but it is a tradition to take official statements on international policy serious


13 posted on 03/21/2019 10:07:03 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

*** Content of the article is up to discussion, of course. You might disagree with its points and put your thoughts here. Isn’t it how the forum works? ***

Maybe that was how FR worked in the “olden days”, but it has devolved into a moronic key word, name calling (ie, Putin’s butt boys), mostly neocon site. Very few civil discussions, dissent or questioning of the hive mind is tolerated.


14 posted on 03/21/2019 10:08:58 PM PDT by sockmonkey (I am an America First, not Israel First FReeper.)
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To: NorseViking

Neither is the Huffington Post, but that’s only posted occasionally and for purposes of ridicule rather than discussion.


15 posted on 03/21/2019 10:16:11 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: sockmonkey

Well it seems like it still there. Someone expressed opinion that the author of the article is Marxist another said he isn’t. Maybe someone would finally say something about context too.


16 posted on 03/21/2019 10:16:22 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Olog-hai

Of, I see. Thank you very much.


17 posted on 03/21/2019 10:18:26 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

YW. BTW, we are not going to war with Russia. Their alliance with China is a harbinger for some really bad geopolitical shifts, though, never mind the alliance of both of them with Iran.


18 posted on 03/21/2019 10:28:41 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

I might be wrong but don’t see a Chinese
-Russian alliance. All I see are Russian attempts to fake it to show they aren’t isolated and China trying to take as much advantage of it as possible.


19 posted on 03/21/2019 10:34:08 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: sockmonkey

Sadly, I agree. This site used to be very thoughtful and those folks have been chased off.


20 posted on 03/21/2019 10:37:38 PM PDT by Dave W
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