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1 posted on 03/10/2019 10:09:18 AM PDT by SleeperCatcher
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Massive aircraft carriers are modern naval wonders but they’re also massive targets for increasingly accurate precision-guided missiles.

And they're too valuable to lose which plays a significant role in the careful, conservative ways that todays CVNs are deployed.

Losing even one would be a catastrophe.

2 posted on 03/10/2019 10:13:20 AM PDT by Drew68 (No, as a matter of fact, I didn't read the article.)
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WOPR is pretty old technology after all. I think you can only access it with an old phone modem that you place the receiver on.


3 posted on 03/10/2019 10:13:57 AM PDT by dsrtsage (For Leftists, World History starts every day at breakfast)
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Interesting read. Thank you.


4 posted on 03/10/2019 10:16:47 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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Ping


5 posted on 03/10/2019 10:18:46 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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Aircraft carriers have become what battleships were by the 1940’s. They still have their uses. But they are much more vulnerable than a lot of people want to admit.


6 posted on 03/10/2019 10:20:02 AM PDT by NRx (A man of honor passes his father's civilization to his son without surrendering it to strangers.)
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Modern 'war planning' is based on 'profit for military contractors', power for thugs running the Pentagon, and 'how-to win' strategies if we were fighting World War II' over again...

We can't even build a damn wall to keep millions of invaders out... we sure as hell can't fight a war.

7 posted on 03/10/2019 10:20:31 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats are attacking Ivanka & Jared ostensibly on security clearances - reality is antisemitism)
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The National Sentinel is fake news. I wouldn’t trust them if they said the sky was blue.


8 posted on 03/10/2019 10:23:24 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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Massive aircraft carriers are modern naval wonders but they’re also massive targets for increasingly accurate precision-guided missiles.

And, for several decades, the Chinese have had a goal of developing anti-ship missiles capable of defeating US carrier groups. And they've benefited from decades of stupid US trade policies which have enriched them greatly, and also from technology transfers of every sort, particularly the missile guidance system technology sold to them during the Slick Willie years.

The US policies toward Red China since the "opening" of China by Nixon have probably been the dumbest and most dangerous in US history.

9 posted on 03/10/2019 10:24:06 AM PDT by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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These games are based on a premise that China and Russia when it came to it could execute a blue water fight of some kind. They have zero experience.


10 posted on 03/10/2019 10:24:33 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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The other big fix: toughening up our command, control, and communications networks. That includes everything from jam-proof datalinks to electronic warfare gear on combat aircraft and warships. The services are fond of cutting corners on electronics to get as many planes in the air and hulls in the water as possible, Ochmanek said, but a multi-billion dollar ship that dies for lack of a million-dollar decoy is a lousy return on investment.

It'll come down to who has the best information and can move on that fastest... Also, there's ZERO protection for the homeland. That's nuts. Think of 'winning the war' while the country died....

11 posted on 03/10/2019 10:28:49 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats are attacking Ivanka & Jared ostensibly on security clearances - reality is antisemitism)
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RAND is the tool DoD uses to get more money. It has almost no other role.

And one question RAND will never answer, nor will DoD, is:

If they can win against us so decisively and predictably, why do they run from us every single time we confront them?

Just why?


13 posted on 03/10/2019 10:31:45 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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They have a point and the business is seriously out of hands.
Big war is always attrition which is not sustainable the way military equipment is designed, produced and procured nowadays.
What was the time needed to produce an aircraft or armoder vehicle during WWII? What were the prices even adjusted to inflation?
I think everyone understands what I am talking about.


15 posted on 03/10/2019 10:34:21 AM PDT by NorseViking
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From the article: “The US and its allies notoriously keep underestimating how many smart weapons they’ll need for a shooting war, then start to run out against enemies as weak as the Serbs or Libyans. Against a Russia or China, which can match not only our technology but our mass, you run out of munitions fast.”

I visited the Little Bighorn battlefield two years ago where the US Army under General George Armstrong Custer should have learned a lesson about running out of ammunition. Perhaps the perfumed desk jockeys with stars making purchasing decisions at the Pentagon should take field trips to some of the sites where American troops lost the battle. Apparently they didn’t learn the lessons sitting in class at the War College.

Not to mention many of the high tech wonder weapons used by the US military have components produced in China. How can we be sure those parts aren’t Trojan horses which will wake up on command?


17 posted on 03/10/2019 10:50:39 AM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on)
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At least they are not buying into the Democrat BS about who should be red and who should be blue.


19 posted on 03/10/2019 11:03:50 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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20 years of fighting ground wars against stone age enemies, spending the entire declining budget replenishing conventional arms and keeping troops sustained in the field while spending nothing on R&D for advanced weapon and C2 systems takes it's toll. The so-called near peer nations (arguably WE are the ones who are near peers to them, militarily) have missile systems that we can't adequately defend.


21 posted on 03/10/2019 11:18:25 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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Snore
We All ( big boys ) have multiple thousands of MIRVs that would destroy the entire planet earth in about 15 seconds and that said the big boys ain’t getting any fight anytime soon


22 posted on 03/10/2019 11:23:23 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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We have a defense budget, not counting expenditures, both open and secret, for intelligence larger than the next 15 countries cumulatively spend, many of whom are our allies.

What the hell is going on?


24 posted on 03/10/2019 11:32:57 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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Sure, lets run with that...
Propaganda works both ways.


26 posted on 03/10/2019 11:36:02 AM PDT by vpintheak (Stop making stupid people famous!)
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Re-write the software. Done.


33 posted on 03/10/2019 11:54:29 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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Military conflict has always been a struggle between quality and quantity. If you overemphasize one over the other, you become vulnerable to its opposite. The US has become too focused on quality, so the way to address this is with quantity.

Say the US wants truly amazing, high tech fighter aircraft with a huge price tag. What if instead, for the same price, it manufactured 500 expendable drones? Carrying either an anti-aircraft machine gun *or* a 1000 pound bomb, short of detonating a nuclear weapon, it would be impossible to stop an air armada like that.

They would be a mix of off the shelf parts, and with a cheap computer to run it. And even if the computer was fried, it would continue on to its destination guided by internal wires on a hard programmed course.

Attrition would be high, for any number of reasons, but it wouldn’t matter.

I suggest this as an idea for the US, but the US doesn’t really have a choice. Either it goes for sheer numbers or it remains unacceptably vulnerable to any nation that can make an automobile, which means it can make a drone.


35 posted on 03/10/2019 12:03:13 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Old people ought to be bumped off when their usefulness is done." -- Eleanor Roosevelt)
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