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Captain Mary Sue
National Review ^ | March 5, 2019 | Kyle Smith

Posted on 03/05/2019 11:15:36 AM PST by C19fan

Two years ago, Wonder Woman proved a female-led superhero movie could reach the highest levels of the genre, with Gal Gadot proving robust and redoubtable, yet also charming and feminine. I spent Captain Marvel waiting for Gadot. What I got was Brie Larson: charmless, humorless, a character so without texture that she might as well be made out of aluminum.

Captain Marvel might be the first blockbuster movie whose animating idea is fear. Every page of the script betrays terror of what people might say about the film on social media. Give Carol Danvers a love interest? Eek! No, women can’t be defined by the men in their lives! Make her vulnerable? OMG, no, that’s crazy. Feminine? What century are you from if you think females should be feminine? Toward the end of the movie, when a villain preparing for an epic confrontation with Carol, the fighter pilot turned Superwoman, chides her that she will fail because she can’t control her emotions, there is no tension whatsoever. We’ve just spent two hours watching her be utterly unfazed by anything. Giving Carol actual emotions would, of course, lead to at least 27 people calling the film misogynist on Twitter, and the directors Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck are petrified of that.

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TOPICS: Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: captaintampon; disney; feminism; marvel
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin; Gideon7

OK, I just Googled it and found that the revisionists have made Captain Marvel a woman. smh. So I was right to say nevermind.


21 posted on 03/05/2019 1:25:03 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: A strike
"Of Course women rock and men suck. Is this even disputable?"
Maybe you got that backwards? Any dyslexia in your family?

;-)

22 posted on 03/05/2019 2:55:28 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Tunehead54

“Maybe you got that backwards? Any dyslexia in your family?”

Not reely shure; maabee a little bit.


23 posted on 03/05/2019 3:08:37 PM PST by A strike (I DEMAND my responsibilities!)
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To: C19fan

This movie had a lot of potential. Larson seems miscast here.


24 posted on 03/05/2019 3:12:16 PM PST by EdnaMode
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To: A strike; Tunehead54

You made me think of the dyslexic, agnostic insomniac.


25 posted on 03/05/2019 3:13:48 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: A strike; Tunehead54

He stayed up all night lying on his back wondering if there really is a Dog.


26 posted on 03/05/2019 3:17:26 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: higgmeister

Doggone, what did he find out?


27 posted on 03/05/2019 3:25:36 PM PST by A strike (I DEMAND my responsibilities!)
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To: higgmeister; A strike
LOL. On point, funny with good timing on the punchline. ;-)

Now I'm sidetracked searching for clues on a billion British pound sinking of the Merchant Royal.

The Captain and forty seamen didn't go down with the ship, were rescued by their sister ship right off the coast of England where (possibly) they could have scuttled the ship after offloading the treasure (my speculation) then they said "sorry".

See An anchor thought to be from a shipwreck carrying a billion pounds of treasure has been found... and post 7 for the Wiki entry ...

28 posted on 03/05/2019 3:50:58 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: C19fan

Carol Danvers/Captain Marvel is not - repeat: not - a Mary Sue. Perhaps this critic is not a comic fanboy, and does not understand the origin - or perhaps he knows and is being disingenuous.

Wesley Crusher of STNG is the quintessential Mary Sue (a.k.a., Marty Stu). Rey of Star Wars is almost as quintessential an example.

A Mary Sue is an adolescent prodigy who is superior to all trained adults without needing either the training or the experience.

Carol Danvers is a fully-grown adult with years of both Terran and Kree military training. She also has, depending upon the era, either Kree DNA by accident or by birth, giving her superhuman powers.

Danvers has been in the storyline since 1968. She became Ms. Marvel in 1977, with Kree powers. Mar-Vell died, and other females took the title before Ms. Marvel did. She has always been a deliberately feminist character from the beginning - for fifty years.

I suspect Brie Larson is miscast, and misdirected for political purposes. I suspect the narrative is overtly and repulsively leftist. I suspect I would not enjoy it as I did Wonder Woman (another deliberately feminist comic creation).

I plan to see Avengers Endgame, and then write off Phase 4 as simply paying Disney to bludgeon me with arrogant and offensive SJW propaganda, a la Star Wars.

But this reviewer is ignoring the actual etymology of the term, Mary Sue, and the actual history of the character, Carol Danvers - all to emphasize an otherwise valid thesis. That is as poor journalism as what leftists write.

Mary Sue was a character created for a satirical short story by a female Star Trek fan for a fanzine in the early 1970s (after cancellation, before major publishing and cinematic revivals).

P.S.
I once collected - long ago. I bought Marvel Super-Heroes #12 (debut: Mar-Vell) and #13 (debut: Carol Danvers) and Ms. Marvel #1 right off the stands.

P.P.S.
None of this - except for trademark rights - has anything to do with the character, Captain Marvel/Billy Batson/Shazam, of Fawcett and, later, DC fame.


29 posted on 03/05/2019 4:46:33 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Tunehead54

Thanks, but, I only wish that I could be clever.


30 posted on 03/05/2019 5:10:50 PM PST by A strike (I DEMAND my responsibilities!)
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To: YogicCowboy

Sounds really ‘Big Bang Theory’ geek like.

(a great show!)


31 posted on 03/05/2019 5:21:14 PM PST by A strike (I DEMAND my responsibilities!)
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To: higgmeister

This character was created in ‘77 about the time Marvel comics killed of their first version with cancer.


32 posted on 03/05/2019 6:14:02 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: C19fan

Not a big fan of the MCU films anyway, so I will definitely give this one a miss. Ha ha.


33 posted on 03/05/2019 6:17:52 PM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: higgmeister
You made me think of the dyslexic, agnostic insomniac.

He stayed up all night wondering if there was a DOG?

34 posted on 03/05/2019 6:28:43 PM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: C19fan; All
Here's another review:

‘CAPTAIN MARVEL’ DROWNS IN VICTIMHOOD, DULL ACTION

35 posted on 03/05/2019 6:40:48 PM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: Sybeck1

Marvel may tank the entire comic book market... again, for the first time in 20 years... again by flooding the chanel with titles (over 100 a month)


36 posted on 03/05/2019 7:08:46 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: C19fan
Two years ago, Wonder Woman proved a female-led superhero movie could reach the highest levels of the genre

Wonder Woman was a horrible movie - confused plot moved along by ridiculous CGI excesses. Glad I watched it pirated for free - would have hated to waste money on it.

37 posted on 03/05/2019 7:42:38 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: bwest; montag813

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5d1e0r


38 posted on 03/05/2019 7:44:08 PM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

There is only one Wonder Women. Gal did not have the err... assets needed.

FTA: Captain Marvel star Brie Larson: I don’t need a white dude to tell me what didn’t work. It wasn’t made for him! I want to know what it meant for women of color

Brie is a white women. She should have given up the millions she is making for a ‘african-american’ actress.

But she will not.


39 posted on 03/06/2019 10:35:16 AM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: YogicCowboy

Also that they don’t even have any real justification for how they are superior to all trained adults without needing either the training or the experience. If they are from a species that is naturally stronger than the human species, that might put it in the gray area (like Supergirl or even Ariel from The Little Mermaid, who at least had their being explicitly being non-humans as an excuse for being capable of beating trained people easily.), or at least prophesized for a certain role (like Anakin being born with a vastly high midi-chlorian count due to his status as the Chosen One, and guess what? Even he needed training.).

Heck, if ANYONE in Disney besides Rey is a mary sue, it’s Belle from the 1991 version of Beauty and the Beast where she seems to have enough strength to lift two individuals who are a lot heavier than her at the very least as if they were nothing, and despite her being an explicit shut-in with little to no actual physical training.


40 posted on 03/06/2019 6:29:32 PM PST by otness_e
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