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To: TEXOKIE
Ha.

That's great, Texy. Thanks. Now I have something to report. I just ended a discussion with my brain-trust and I think I've got that post figured out nicely. All except this one line, as bitt points out.

I'd like to know the answer to THIS one line of Q's.

Why was [NV] barred from entering prior to?

Why was she persona non grata BEFORE she was granted special entry by [LL] personally?

I have a vague recollection that she WAS, just don't remember why. I think the info is out there somewhere, but im a very poor researcher, as you know.

Anyway, thanks. Your dig will help my Oracalling. I hope to be able to explain that post in easy to understand language. It looks good in my head, now to articulate it. That's the trick.

Thank you, ace reporter and shovel-mama.

😃

p.s. It takes a lot to make bitt say "YOW!"

Bagster


447 posted on 02/16/2019 10:34:53 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster; bitt

Why was [NV] barred from entering prior to?
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I gave bitt my best speculation on that in my just previous post. But I see now that [LL] was in charge at the time.

Could it be that she was considered to be THEIR derp honey trap and that they had to control her carefully? .... with the Q team monitoring developments? Sorry I am unable to give facts to back that up at the moment.....be back in minute,....

:-D

Thanks for the kind words! Glad to help!

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452 posted on 02/16/2019 10:45:33 PM PST by TEXOKIE
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To: bagster; bitt

ok - here are some sources on her entering the country:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-the-obama-doj-let-russian-lawyer-natalia-veselnitskaya-into-the-u-s/

Why did Obama’s DOJ let Natalia Veselnitskaya into U.S.?

JULY 16, 2017

During a press conference with French President Emmanuel Macron in Paris on Thursday, President Trump fielded a question about the 2016 meeting between his son, Donald Trump Jr., and a Russian lawyer that has ensnared his administration in a new round of controversy.

...Trump Jr. agreed to the meeting and hosted Veselnitskaya for a meeting with him, Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner, and Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort at Trump Tower on June 9, 2016. Veselnitskaya allegedly provided no useful information, Trump Jr. said after the controversy erupted this week.

In Paris, Mr. Trump reacted to the meeting, saying he thought “the press made a very big deal over something that really a lot of people would do.” HE THEN SEEMED TO BLAME THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION FOR ALLOWING VESELNITSKAYA INTO THE COUNTRY.

“NOW, THE LAWYER THAT WENT TO THE MEETING, I SEE THAT SHE WAS IN THE HALLS OF CONGRESS ALSO,” MR. TRUMP SAID. “SOMEBODY SAID THAT HER VISA OR HER PASSPORT TO COME INTO THE COUNTRY WAS APPROVED BY [FORMER] ATTORNEY GENERAL [LORETTA] LYNCH. NOW, MAYBE THAT’S WRONG. I JUST HEARD THAT A LITTLE WHILE AGO. I WAS SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT.”

[I am looking at this through the lens of “he has it all,” and is pointing it out and trolling them]

A spokesman for Lynch, who served as attorney general under President Obama, told CBS News Lynch “does not have any personal knowledge of Ms. Veselnitskaya’s travel.” The spokesman noted “the State Department issues visas, and the Department of Homeland Security oversees entry to the United States at airports.”

Mr. Trump appeared to be referencing reports about Veselnitskaya’s efforts to enter the U.S. to represent a Russian client in a New York lawsuit in late 2015. DENIED A VISA, A FRUSTRATED VESELNITSKAYA WAS EVENTUALLY ABLE TO SECURE PERMISSION FROM THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO ENTER THE COUNTRY OUTSIDE THE NORMAL VISA PROCESS UNDER A DESIGNATION KNOWN AS “IMMIGRATION PAROLE,” COURT RECORDS SHOW.

In October 2015, Veselnitskaya represented Denis Katsyv in a money laundering suit against his company, Prevezon. The U.S. government had accused Katsyv of using $230 million in stolen funds to buy real estate. Veselnitskaya’s application for a visa to travel to the U.S. to work on the case was denied, she said in a later court filing.

Instead, the Department of Justice granted Katsyv and Veselnitskaya immigration parole. In later arguments before a federal judge, a government attorney described immigration parole as “a discretionary act that the statute allows the attorney general to do in extraordinary circumstances.”

The U.S. attorney’s office for the Southern District of New York granted Veselnitskaya immigration parole in October 2015, setting an expiration date of January 7, 2016, DOJ attorneys later told the court. On January 4, Veselnitskaya’s request to extend her parole was denied, according to a declaration filed in U.S. District Court on January 5. In that filing, Veselnitskaya asked the judge to allow her to remain in the U.S. to defend Katsyv. She added she had “been harassed by the Government despite being paroled into the United States” when trying to return from a trip to London that November.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-lawyer-natalia-veselnitskaya-us-kremlins-blessing-bill-browder/

[FAKE NEWs.... but actually this is probably true.... and if my crazy idea is right, Putin would have probably very likely been informed if not involved directly. I can just see them allowing the derps to carefully try to put together their Don Jr honey trap....just so that the trap could be sprung on them.]

July 12, 2017, 8:28 PM
Putin critic: Russian lawyer wouldn’t have been in U.S. without Kremlin’s OK

WASHINGTON — Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russia lawyer who met with Donald Trump Jr., Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner in June 2016, says she didn’t have any dirt on Hillary Clinton. The Russian government says they don’t even know who she is.

But, like most things Kremlin, there’s more to that story.

Veselnitskaya, who speaks no English, represents a wealthy, Kremlin-connected family in Moscow: the Katsyvs....

[Bill Browder said:]
...”She has a wide range of tasks, not just a lawyer as she’s been described. She is an operator,” he said.

He called Veselnitskaya a “formidable adversary,” and said she wouldn’t have been in the U.S. lobbying to overturn the Magnitsky Act without the Kremlin’s blessing....”

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https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/07/12/obama-doj-allowed-veselnitskaya-to-enter-u-s-without-visa-before-trump-team-meeting/

Obama DOJ Allowed Russian Lawyer to Enter U.S. Without Visa Before Trump Team Meeting

The Obama Justice Department cleared Moscow attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya last year under “extraordinary circumstances,” allowing her to enter the United States without a visa before she penetrated then-candidate Donald Trump’s inner circle, The Hill reported Wednesday evening.

Veselnitskaya spent June of 2016 lobbying government officials and lawmakers to reverse the Magnitsky Act and restore the ability of Americans to adopt Russian orphans. She managed to finagle a meeting with the Trump team by promising that she had dirt on Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee for president....


460 posted on 02/16/2019 11:04:38 PM PST by TEXOKIE
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To: bagster
has this been posted? Source follows as I'm on my iPad and unable to keep two windows open.

H

WP ) At the heart of the current media Russian narrative du jour is a story about Donald Trump Jr. meeting with a Russian attorney named Natalia Veselnitskaya. That meeting took place on June 9th 2016 in Trump Tower.

Now it is discovered via video and images, that only 5 days later, June 14th 2016, Ms. Veselnitskaya was a guest of former Obama administration Russian Ambassador Michael McFaul in Washington DC for a House of Representatives hearing on U.S. Policy Toward Putin’s Russia.

Ms. Natalia Veselnitskaya is pictured seated in the front row directly behind former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Mr. Michael McFaul at the House Foreign Affairs Committee. This is June 14th, 2016, five days after the reported meeting with Donald Trump Jr.

It should be noted that Ambassador McFaul was very publicly discussing the ‘Muh Russia’ conspiracy narrative in the media and appeared on numerous NBC and MSNBC broadcasts during the 2016 campaign, and immediately after the election.

535 posted on 02/17/2019 6:35:32 AM PST by KittenClaws ("They've got Daryl's Dad's car! .....Red Dawn)
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