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Discarded smart lightbulbs reveal your wifi passwords, stored in the clear
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Posted on 02/10/2019 6:38:37 PM PST by ameribbean expat

Your smart lightbulb is probably storing your wifi password in the clear, ready to be recovered by wily dumpster-divers; Limited Results discovered the security worst-practice during a teardown of a Lifx bulb; and that's just for starters: the bulbs also store their RSA private key and root passwords in the clear and have no security measures to prevent malicious reflashings of their ROMs with exploits, network probes and other nasties.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: beseeingyou; bigbother; dimbulbs; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; ledbulbcolor; ledbulbs; ledlightbulbs; lightbulbs; passwords; privacy; privacyrights; smartbulbs; smartlightbulbs; technology; unintended; wifi
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To: ameribbean expat

All of my lightbulbs are dumb. I checked. Dumb as a rock. I tried to stike up a conversation but nothing happened. Dumber than Mongo in a saloon.


61 posted on 02/10/2019 8:47:25 PM PST by centurion316
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To: ameribbean expat

OMG


62 posted on 02/10/2019 8:51:42 PM PST by GOPJ (We renew our resolve America will NEVER be a socialist country. We are born free we will STAY free!)
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To: Jamestown1630

I bought one single CFL and put it in the overhead fixture in my office. That lasted a couple of days. The quality of the light was horrible and the price of the bulb was ridiculous.

For me also that was basically when I decided to stock up on incandescent bulbs.

I just recently changed out four 4 foot double fixtures of fluorescent bulbs in my garage into LED bulbs. What a tremendous improvement.

The idiot contractor who built my house did not put low temperature ballast fluorescent bulbs in. So 6 months of the year I had almost no light in the garage.


63 posted on 02/10/2019 8:52:50 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: the_daug

Smarter to just not have or use smart devices.


64 posted on 02/10/2019 8:53:24 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: ameribbean expat

Who the heck needs a “smart” light bulb? Even without the security issue, what possible advantage is there? So I can tell Alexa to turn the lights on? Why?


65 posted on 02/10/2019 8:54:02 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Fungi
A computer (micro controller) is built into every bulb together with a complete WiFi radio communication system. The manufacturer either programs them in the factory or maybe "Over The Air." Hackers can probably pull the micro controller chip and install it in another device. It isn't hard to unsolder surface mount chips using hot air.

With LED bulbs lasting tens of thousands of hours, the manufacturers can afford to make the micro controller and WiFi chip disposable.

LIFX

$12.50 in a four-pack.

Here's the brains of a LIFX bulb with the LED chips around the periphery.


66 posted on 02/10/2019 9:15:48 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ameribbean expat

I know my wifi toaster loves me and will never turn on me.


67 posted on 02/10/2019 9:29:30 PM PST by dynachrome (Build the wall, deport them all.)
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To: ameribbean expat

Smart bulb?

Sounds like a dim bulb to me.


68 posted on 02/10/2019 9:40:11 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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To: LeoTDB69

LOL! I thought you were kidding me, but I found ‘ultrasonic remote controls’ (it’s funny that one of the first ones was called ‘Lazy Bones’!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_control#Television_remote_controls

We had nothing like that, just second-hand tvs, and when a tube burned out or something else went wrong, it would be months before we could afford to get the tv fixed again. It was always just getting up, changing channels, twisting around the rabbit ears, and constantly adjusting the vertical or horizontal :-)


69 posted on 02/10/2019 9:40:53 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: ameribbean expat

WTF is a smart light bulb?

What is next, smart vegetables? Smart toilets? Smart paint?

Is everything smart today? Sheesh.


70 posted on 02/10/2019 11:10:05 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (I hate modern life)
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To: Jamestown1630

#45. Back when the “stupid” ban on old style bulbs was put in, there was a clause that allowed certain types of bulbs made in a state to be sold only instate. This included them. Don’t know if this is still in effect or not. I hate the curly bulbs that contain Mercury. Hard to find a place to recycle them.


71 posted on 02/10/2019 11:40:11 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (with)
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To: dfwgator

The Internet of Things: What could possibly go wrong?

My dishwasher needs wifi to tell me a load is done, my fridge needs to tell me I am running out of milk, and my electric toothbrush needs to tattle on me to my dentist!!!!


72 posted on 02/11/2019 1:19:42 AM PST by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: ameribbean expat

“dumb” technology. somehow it makes you feel smarter.


73 posted on 02/11/2019 1:22:39 AM PST by dadfly
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To: ameribbean expat

My dumb bulbs shine brighter every day.


74 posted on 02/11/2019 1:37:17 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: ameribbean expat

How many Hillary staffers does it take to change a lightbulb?

4, 1 to change the bulb, 1 to smash the old one with a hammer, 1 shoot the 1 who destroyed the evidence, and 1 as head of legal council.


75 posted on 02/11/2019 1:39:19 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: ameribbean expat

Smart light bulbs?

These are necessary why?


76 posted on 02/11/2019 1:39:23 AM PST by Califreak (If Obama had been treated like Trump the US would have been burnt down before Inauguration Day)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

But you can put a speaker inside that lightbulb and listen to music in your kitchen (via the light fixture) from your streaming computer in a nearby room.

Of course it isn’t a stretch to make such data transfer 2-way and include a microphone (and or cam) inside that “smart” bulb.

Be seeing you.


77 posted on 02/11/2019 1:41:57 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: Fungi

>>How does one get the info off the bulb?

“wifi”


78 posted on 02/11/2019 1:42:59 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: flamberge

I don’t like our brave new world full of computerized everything, legal drugs and socially acceptable deviance and devoid of God.


79 posted on 02/11/2019 1:43:02 AM PST by Califreak (If Obama had been treated like Trump the US would have been burnt down before Inauguration Day)
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To: Fungi

Maybe I’m thinking bluetooth

I have bluetooth headphones that I can charge up via USB but once charged I turn it on off-wire and hold some buttons to make it “reset” and agree to allow connection from the first bluetooth device that asks (computer, phone, etc.).


80 posted on 02/11/2019 1:45:12 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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