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Germany responsible for the Holocaust, not Nazis: Polish Prime Minister
The Local Germany ^ | 28 Jan 2019 | AFP

Posted on 01/30/2019 3:55:31 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

Hitler's Germany was responsible for the Holocaust, not the Nazis, Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said Sunday, as Poland marked 74 years since the liberation of the Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp.

"Hitler's Germany fed on fascist ideology... But all the evil came from this (German) state and we cannot forget that, because otherwise we relativise evil..."

"The Polish state acts as the guardian of the truth, which must not be relativised in any way."

"I want to make a promise here to (preserve) the complete truth about that era," he added, in a speech in the southern city of Oswiecim to mark Holocaust Memorial Day.

Sunday's ceremony at Auschwitz was attended by a number of former prisoners at the camp.

Morawiecki's speech comes after last year's row over a Polish law that made it illegal to accuse the Polish nation or state of complicity in Nazi German crimes.

After protests from Israel and the US, Poland amended the law to remove the possibility of fines or a prison sentence.

Morawiecki appeared to be responding to an idea often mentioned in Poland, which claims that historians try to attribute responsibility for the genocide of Jews exclusively to the Nazis, without recalling the role played by the German state and Germans as a nation.

(Excerpt) Read more at thelocal.de ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; germany; hitler; holocaust; mateuszmorawiecki; memory; nazis; poland; wwii
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To: SunkenCiv

“The Poles had a lot on their minds when the Holocaust was going on, but they knew what was going on. By his standard, they’re equally guilty.”

Yep. The wankers couldn’t be bothered to call 911.

“the Nazi invasion”

What’s “the Nazi invasion” ?

“The day after the massacre, they went to the local butcher shop, and the butcher was chuckling and joking about the Jews’ massacre.”

So the sob later went to America and spend his life throwing mud at the people, who saved his ass ? Well, quite typical...


81 posted on 02/03/2019 6:43:03 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246
So, you stand with that butcher and hate the Jews, good to now.

82 posted on 02/03/2019 10:13:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: alternatives?
anti-semitic but the majority of even those didn't hand over their Jewish friends to be killed.

Some did, yes, but not a "significant portion" even of the anti-semitic Poles

83 posted on 02/09/2019 1:31:53 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: montag813

That’s false. There are plenty of “real men” in Germany. it’s been 70 years since the war. Germany recovered enough in the 20 years after World War One to field “real men” in World War 2


84 posted on 02/09/2019 1:38:31 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: JudgemAll

Correct — he said the German state.


85 posted on 02/09/2019 1:40:52 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: captain_dave
it was caused by the allies not pushing INTO Germany.

For German civilians and soldiers they saw that all their armies were on foreign soil and suddenly they are declared losers? It was incomprehensible. So the "stab in the back" theory

World War 2 ended iwth Germany crushed right down to the gates of Berlin.

The Germans understood that war is hell

the same with the Japanese -- they now understand the hell their armies unleashed on others and won't undertake it again.

86 posted on 02/09/2019 1:43:07 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: babble-on
Poland, unlike every other Germany occupied country:
  1. did not have a collaborationist government. It kept fighting officially until 1945 and never surrendered
  2. ceased to exist after being conquered. It was wiped off the map and the various provinces annexed directly to Germany or the USSR
  3. had the death sentence for the person PLUS their family if they helped Jews. If you gave water to a Jew, you AND your family would be shot. Would you take that risk?
  4. Had an order by the anti-German underground that anyone who betrayed a Jew to the Germans would be shot by the resistance
  5. still had millions of people who saved jews -- look at Vad Yashem

87 posted on 02/09/2019 1:46:38 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: DesertRhino
The ones who went out killing Jews (and Poles) were Bandera's Ukrainian army. That doesn't mean today's Ukrainians are responsible for that hate


88 posted on 02/09/2019 1:49:25 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

*Sigh* we always have to deal with this crap.


89 posted on 02/09/2019 1:51:13 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Cronos
Yep, Bandera's boys were responsible for killing over 100,000 Poles. Have you seen the movie "Wołyn"?
90 posted on 02/09/2019 1:54:14 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Yes. the director did a good job of being impartial - showing the faults of the Poles as well. But Bandera’s boys were monsters.


91 posted on 02/10/2019 11:59:24 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

I saw “Cold War” too, it should get the Oscar for best Foreign Picture.


92 posted on 02/10/2019 3:26:03 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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