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Germany responsible for the Holocaust, not Nazis: Polish Prime Minister
The Local Germany ^ | 28 Jan 2019 | AFP

Posted on 01/30/2019 3:55:31 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

Hitler's Germany was responsible for the Holocaust, not the Nazis, Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said Sunday, as Poland marked 74 years since the liberation of the Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp.

"Hitler's Germany fed on fascist ideology... But all the evil came from this (German) state and we cannot forget that, because otherwise we relativise evil..."

"The Polish state acts as the guardian of the truth, which must not be relativised in any way."

"I want to make a promise here to (preserve) the complete truth about that era," he added, in a speech in the southern city of Oswiecim to mark Holocaust Memorial Day.

Sunday's ceremony at Auschwitz was attended by a number of former prisoners at the camp.

Morawiecki's speech comes after last year's row over a Polish law that made it illegal to accuse the Polish nation or state of complicity in Nazi German crimes.

After protests from Israel and the US, Poland amended the law to remove the possibility of fines or a prison sentence.

Morawiecki appeared to be responding to an idea often mentioned in Poland, which claims that historians try to attribute responsibility for the genocide of Jews exclusively to the Nazis, without recalling the role played by the German state and Germans as a nation.

(Excerpt) Read more at thelocal.de ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; germany; hitler; holocaust; mateuszmorawiecki; memory; nazis; poland; wwii
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1 posted on 01/30/2019 3:55:31 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Yup. He’s right.


2 posted on 01/30/2019 3:56:48 PM PST by jmacusa ("The more numerous the laws the more corrupt the government''.)
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To: jmacusa

A significant portion of the Polish country was anti-Semite as well, however.


3 posted on 01/30/2019 3:59:30 PM PST by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: All

Well there probably aren’t that many still alive who were responsible for it anyway.


4 posted on 01/30/2019 4:00:01 PM PST by escapefromboston (Free Assange)
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To: alternatives?

Rounded up escaped Jews and turned them back over to the German guards.


5 posted on 01/30/2019 4:02:31 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
I'm not sure what his point is. The Holocaust was planned and executed by fanatical Nazis.

I think lots more ordinary Germans were aware of what was happening than later admitted it, but the bottom line is if the Nazis had not seized power, there would have been no Holocaust.

6 posted on 01/30/2019 4:03:28 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Germany paid the ultimate price: the destruction of its strongest men in two wars, and the eternal damnation of Almighty God for what it did to the Jews. These two results have left no real men to oppose the takeover of Islam, which one day will put Germans themselves into camps.


7 posted on 01/30/2019 4:03:29 PM PST by montag813
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

He did not say Germany, he said the state. If not, I disagree, the political democrat party is responsible for slavery, not America.


8 posted on 01/30/2019 4:06:51 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: montag813

Germans were scammed. Hitler wanted to replace them with muslims in the first place, because Alinsky type dictators have no use for people who are not absolute stupid suicide soldiers for them.


9 posted on 01/30/2019 4:08:16 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: alternatives?

There were plenty of Ukrainians, Lithuanians, Romanians and others as well as Poles that murdered Jews. Poles were far from the worst, with perhaps several million Poles involved in rescuing Jews, as is noted in Israel’s Yad Vashem.


10 posted on 01/30/2019 4:08:32 PM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Never under estimate the power of free stuff.

Germans wanted Jew’s free stuff, which it turns out was no so free. Wait until the Commies come for our stuff over here.


11 posted on 01/30/2019 4:09:34 PM PST by TheNext (Participation Award Winner = CoC)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Unfortunately, a lot of the Poles did help the nazis out with their jew hunting.


12 posted on 01/30/2019 4:10:05 PM PST by fruser1
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“Germany paid the ultimate price: the destruction of its strongest men in two wars, and the eternal damnation of Almighty God for what it did to the Jews.”

Germany was punished with millions of casualties in WW1...For actions perpetrated decades later? Is Britain also enternally damned, considering that they’re on the same track as Germany and going downhill at a very similar pace, even though Britain fought against Nazi Germany?

13 posted on 01/30/2019 4:11:24 PM PST by TheDandyMan
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To: colorado tanker
I’m not sure more were aware than admitted, but what they could have done about it either way, I don’t know.

We blithely go about our business as 40 million+ abortions have performed and continue to be performed around us in our country. Not much we can do about.

14 posted on 01/30/2019 4:13:57 PM PST by TheDandyMan
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Hate found a fertile soil in post Great War Germany.


15 posted on 01/30/2019 4:18:17 PM PST by captain_dave
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To: alternatives?

[A significant portion of the Polish country was anti-Semite as well, however.]


Prejudice and the persecution of ethnic/religious minorities wasn’t unique to the Poles. The fact that you were berating someone doesn’t make you complicit when he gets run over by a car.

And there was a loophole. All a Jew had to do to be accepted was conversion to Christianity in some form. Before the Nazis, that also worked in Germany, to the point that some high-level Nazis with partial Jewish ancestry got special exemptions. Hitler’s family’s fully-Jewish doctor wasn’t a Nazi, but got a special visa to leave, anyway, because of his personal connection to Hitler. But anyone who wasn’t connected to a high-level Nazi got the chop. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

Hitler has to be the first would-be world conqueror who slaughtered entire peoples for purely ethno-racial reasons. Most conquerors required but one thing of their subjects - demonstrated loyalty. If Hitler had demonstrated the open-mindedness of William II, Europe might be speaking German today.


16 posted on 01/30/2019 4:19:10 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: jmacusa
Yup. He’s right.

My exact thought about it.

17 posted on 01/30/2019 4:20:02 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: escapefromboston

And you could fit all the Warsaw Jews in the back of my truck.

There was a lot of guilt going around for the 40’s. We should all agree not to do that shit again. It will save us a lot of headaches.


18 posted on 01/30/2019 4:23:09 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: jmacusa
"Yup. He’s right."

Then who in the United States are responsible for the slaughter of 60 million unborn children of the womb?

19 posted on 01/30/2019 4:27:29 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
The Polish did their part against the Nazis and Germans. I just finished reading a paper about the 1st Polish Armored Division and their tenacity against the Germans at the closing of the Falaise Pocket and the actions on the Mt. Ormel ridge.
20 posted on 01/30/2019 4:28:04 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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