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Microsoft decides Internet Explorer 10 has had its fun: Termination set for January 2020
The Register ^ | Jan 29, 2019 | Richard Speed

Posted on 01/29/2019 1:03:45 PM PST by dayglored

Windows Server 2012 admins should crank it up to 11

Microsoft has warned that it isn't only Windows 7 for the chop in 2020. Unloved Internet Explorer 10 will be joining it. Finally.

Internet Explorer 10 first appeared back in 2012 and in 2016 Microsoft made a concerted effort to kill the thing by focusing its support efforts on Internet Explorer 11. Anything not Edge-related or without "11" after it would no longer be supported.

However, not every operating system was capable of actually running Internet Explorer 11 and Microsoft infamously restricted its Edge browser to Windows 10 (and later iOS and Android). Notable exceptions to the IE10 crackdown were Windows Server 2012 and Windows 8 Embedded.

At this point administrators will doubtless be shuddering at the memory of having to run Internet Explorer in their pristine Server environment in order to get access to some recalcitrant function or component.

Alas, the shuddering must resume since after a two-year stay of execution, Microsoft has decided that IE10 must be stamped out completely. Windows Embedded 8 Standard and Windows Server 2012 will remain supported until 2023 after all, and keeping IE10 patched for another four years is doubtless keeping the engineers awake at night.

Microsoft has therefore warned that as well killing off Windows 7 in 2020, enterprises that prefer to take a slower path will have to update IE on their 2012 Servers, since IE10 support will finally end for everything in January 2020.

Unlike Windows 7, you won't even be able to pay for patches.

Over the course of the northern hemisphere's spring, Microsoft will make IE11 available for Server 2012 admins to play with via the Microsoft Update Catalog and also the Update Service. This would be a good a time as any to enable Enterprise Mode to make the browser behave like older versions of IE for those pesky corporate intranet applications that insist on a specific incarnation of a specific renderer. You have until 2020 to leave IE10 behind.

Or you could make Microsoft very happy by migrating to Windows Sever 2016 or 2019, which both have IE11 raring to go in their Long-Term Servicing Branch (LTSB) editions. ®


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: explorer10; explorer11; ie; internet; internetexplorer; microsoft; windows; windows7; windowspinglist
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To: dayglored

If Microsoft would quit re-writing the same software over and over again (and charging us for it), and focus on new products, then we would probably have flying cars and hoverboards by now.

Also teleportation and time travel.


21 posted on 01/29/2019 3:58:39 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: TLI

Use the “Linux Freedom” Mirror source. You will not be sorry you did.

https://linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=261


22 posted on 01/29/2019 3:58:45 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: dayglored

Lol... That’s a fact. And from my extensive experience, out of all applicants for the position they always choose the most ignorant, incompetent, inept person who applied. Preventing any potential threats to their own position maybe? Especially government employees.


23 posted on 01/29/2019 4:12:53 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: knarf
Why is there a constant tweaking and improving a platform when it works just fine for most users ? (gimmee back my Win98SE)

Rose colored glasses for sure, but with tweaking and freeware it was much better. But no match for even XP, though if all you want to do is basics like word processing and open a (very few) web page, then it still work, if you had the drivers. I think I have a bunch of freeware for it. .

How many of those people actually exist outside of us politically engaged / gaming junkies that surf FR, play a few addicting games ALL THE FRIKKIN' TIME, and poke around whatever just interests us because it is the information highway ?

With multiple Firefox/Gecko browsers (such as one for mostly forums and research, another for shopping research, another for financial transactions, and over 300 tabs open, plus multiple documents, Bible programs, email client, etc. all running concurrently, then W/9x or any 32bit OS will do. Thank God for such tools and the means to have and use them. May it all be to His glory.

But some genius in Microsoft certainly thinks every one needs it and will pull our perfectly good OS to flood the market with useless (to us) crap.

Actually despite the bloat that needs to be removed after an install, the newer the OS then the safer it tends to be.

24 posted on 01/29/2019 4:29:03 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: dayglored

Is this the Daily Microsoft Bashing thread?


25 posted on 01/29/2019 4:30:38 PM PST by McGruff
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To: daniel1212

My goodness, “hell” is a vulgar word? What earth upon which do you live? How pure are you? I bet you don’t even say “dang”, a corruption of “damn”? Sure am glad you don’t live in my house...you’d have a heart attack and brain farts all the time. Then there would be no one to pull the tethers on our leashes. Sigh.


26 posted on 01/29/2019 4:47:44 PM PST by Bodega (we are developing less and less common sense...world wide)
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To: dayglored

microsoft’s ridiculous policies of not allowing newer browsers to install on older OSes as well as making their failing P.O.S Edge browser their “flagship” is totally self-destructive ... ironic given that the original Microsoft browser drove Netscape out of business ... i guess what comes around, goes around ...


27 posted on 01/29/2019 4:55:39 PM PST by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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To: McGruff
> Is this the Daily Microsoft Bashing thread?

Sadly, the threads I post with positive or exciting news from Microsoft, about new products or their research projects, draw just as much ire from Windows users as the threads about flaws or other unpleasantness.

There was a time many years ago when I started this list, that there was a lot more good news to post, and Windows fans would get on the thread and chat about it. The negative comments were often from Mac or Linux fans.

But it seems that most of the harsh comments the past few years have been from Windows users (especially Win10) who are dissatisfied. The positive comments from Windows users are almost all from Win7 fans who speak of it in glowing terms.

As I’ve commented before, I think that Microsoft lost their way some years ago, mainly under Ballmer’s direction, and that they are finally starting to get the ship turned around. Also as I’ve said before, Microsoft has thousands of brilliant, talented technical employees, and there’s no technical reason for the lame stuff they do — the lameness is managerial and marketing driven, as I see it.

I truly hope they find their way and produce great stuff again.

Meanwhile, these threads do reflect the frustration of Windows users, but it’s my hope that in time the comments will go back to being more positive.

28 posted on 01/29/2019 5:01:27 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: catnipman
It was all about forcing the world onto Windows 10. Microsoft is betting a lot on that. Their predictions of how rapidly Win10 would overtake older versions and be on a billion machines now sound like global warming predictions from 2000. Remember “Our children won’t know what snow looks like!”?

Meanwhile, I suspect Edge suffered/suffers from a large dose of NIH — Not Invented Here — Syndrome. Why in the world would Microsoft think that they could get away with their old trick of rolling their own version of a standard, and drag everybody over into it simply because they (still) own the desktop market?

Admitting that mistake and switching to the Chromium engine is a mighty big crow to chow down on, but it was the right decision.

29 posted on 01/29/2019 5:08:28 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Hell, I’d prefer to go back to Wordperfect 7

Well, I've been using Word Perfect Suite 8 on all windows versions since it was new with no problems.

Microsoft made it that Office 97 would not load on Win7, but trusty old World Perfect did.

FWIW, I have had 0 problems with Windows 10, upgraded from Windows 8 on a Toshiba laptop. I did do the driver updates from Toshiba to move to 8.1 and then 10.

30 posted on 01/29/2019 5:09:59 PM PST by Abby4116
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To: dayglored

Well explained, because that is just about it in a nutshell. Everyone is just sick of their business practices.

Honestly... I was fine with win 7 and wouldn’t have even went looking for an alternative. But the very first time I used 10 I decided was not going to be extorted and played like an ignorant fool. I would quit computers all together if that’s all there was.


31 posted on 01/29/2019 5:13:59 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: TLI

Internet Explorer 10 is a “browser” and not an OS.


32 posted on 01/29/2019 5:23:35 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Openurmind

Installed in a flash on a 6 year old Dell laptop and runs like a top. Have Windows 10 on a 3 year old laptop and it coughs, spits and hiccups non stop.


33 posted on 01/29/2019 5:25:10 PM PST by Stentor
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To: Stentor

Fantastic! They finally have it down to a very fast and light comfortable familiar OS win 7 users can understand and use right away. I should have done it a couple years ago. I will now never have to deal with win 10 or MS BS again. :)


34 posted on 01/29/2019 5:39:21 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: Bodega
My goodness, “hell” is a vulgar word?

My goodness, “hell” is a vulgar word? N

o, Hell is a proper Biblical word for those who love darkness rather than light, (Jn. 3:19-21) and so reject Christ as their Lord and Savior. The Word at issue was the "F bomb" which used to be rare on FR but along with other coarse language seems to be increasing for years, paralleling the culture , and numerous threads have addressed it like Profanity: How small minds try to speak with strength?, and Vulgarity: the style of our days , and of late (12/18/2018)Jim Robinson has laid down the Reminder: No profanity, no racism, no personal attacks, no threats, no violence, etc. The use of such has been one the reasons for a thread being pulled

What earth upon which do you live? How pure are you? I bet you don’t even say “dang”, a corruption of “damn”?

What was being reproved here was the posting of it, and self-control is a fruit the Spirit, yet actually "dam" is also a proper word as in my tag line, but not as making it into God's last name. But while not using vulgarity own heart does need more reconditioning for Christ to fully be at home there.

Contending for the Truth does require forceful arguments, but which vulgar language is a no substitute for, and simply makes us more like the world and liberalism, and we shall give an account to Christ for every idle word.

35 posted on 01/30/2019 6:23:07 AM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: dayglored
Hey, today i noticed YourPhone.exe running in the background today (via Process Hacker ) and looked it up, which Tom's Hardware reports :

New with the Windows 10 October 2018 Update, Microsoft's Your Phone app allows you to send and receive text messages from your phone or access all of its photos right from your desktop.

Thought this may be of interest.

36 posted on 01/30/2019 6:44:51 AM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212

I have Firefox 64.0.2 running on my home computer. They better resolve the occasional slowdown issues with the newly-release Firefox 65.0.


37 posted on 01/30/2019 7:33:22 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: RayChuang88

65 now? I’m still running 57- didn’t realize it had gone that high lol


38 posted on 01/30/2019 9:32:55 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Bob434

They just released Firefox 65.0 on 29 January 2019.


39 posted on 01/30/2019 10:57:52 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: RayChuang88

i haven’t updated in awhile- when i tried, it changed the font on my search pages that made it harder to read- i couldn’t get it back- so i went to an earlier version of FF- and they dropped support for adblock in recent ones too from what i heard? I won’t surf without adblock plus-


40 posted on 01/30/2019 11:10:57 AM PST by Bob434
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