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Myth: Hitler was a leftist.
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitler.htm | STEVE KANGAS

Posted on 01/26/2019 2:14:58 PM PST by Pontiac

Summary

Many conservatives accuse Hitler of being a leftist, on the grounds that his party was named "National Socialist."

But socialism requires worker ownership and control of the means of production.

In Nazi Germany, private capitalist individuals owned the means of production, and they in turn were frequently controlled by the Nazi party and state.

True socialism does not advocate such economic dictatorship -- it can only be democratic. Hitler's other political beliefs place him almost always on the far right.

He advocated racism over racial tolerance, eugenics over freedom of reproduction, merit over equality, competition over cooperation, power politics and militarism over pacifism, dictatorship over democracy, capitalism over Marxism, realism over idealism, nationalism over internationalism, exclusiveness over inclusiveness, common sense over theory or science, pragmatism over principle, and even held friendly relations with the Church, even though he was an atheist.


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To: Pontiac

“true socialism” was not supposed to be like Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, et al, but it always seems to tend in that direction.... or at least to Castro, Chavez, Maduro, et al.

Sure, Hitler did not present himself as some pure “democratic” socialist but he sure did believe in total state control of resources and economic enterprises.... he just couldn’t change everything at once while he was busy making war, slaughtering millions, launching the Holocaust, etc.

The Nazis were “willing” to allow evil capitalists to exist, under certain very strict conditions, which included that they not be Jews and not oppose Nazi policies in any way.


61 posted on 01/26/2019 2:51:40 PM PST by Trump_the_Evil_Left (FReeper formerly known as Enchante (registered Sept. 5, 2001), back from the wild....)
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To: Pontiac

He has a loony idea of what the definition of what left and right is. It’s more of a European definition. “Right” in the US has a whole different meaning because in the US the definition isn’t based on identity politics as it is in Europe but upon how strictly one interprets the Constitution.


62 posted on 01/26/2019 2:51:42 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: onedoug

“The Mohammedan religion would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?” - Hitler


63 posted on 01/26/2019 2:51:56 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Pontiac

There is no such thing as a Right-Wing Dictatorship. A dictator, by definition is centralized, government power and is the antithesis of right-wing, personal liberty over government control.

The rest of this examples are just as bass akwards as this one.


64 posted on 01/26/2019 2:53:06 PM PST by CrappieLuck
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To: dfwgator
Are you asking if the the Nazi Party after Hitler had gained control of it is a mirror image of the American Left of today, I would say no.

The American Left of today is, after you strip away the veneer, communist or communist wannabe.

Hitler despised the communists.

The Nazi's were what Hitler wanted them to be regardless of how the Nationalist Socialist Party might have fancied itself before Hitler took control.

Hitler is neither Left nor Right as the terms are used today.

He is pure authoritarian. He is all about Hitler.

Haven't you read Toland and Shirer and other authoritative accounts of that period? Hitler isn't a socialist and he certainly isn't a classical republican (little "r").

Hitler viewed himself as a god.

65 posted on 01/26/2019 2:53:22 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Chickensoup

The question (to me at least) is who is maintaining his website since he offed himself?


66 posted on 01/26/2019 2:53:25 PM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: RoosterRedux
Hitler despised the communists.

Stalin killed more Communists than Hitler did.

67 posted on 01/26/2019 2:54:21 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

True, really. They adhered to their own nationalism instead. In some nations, there’s generally a kind of nationalism that is based on some myth about inherent superiority in the people of that nation (communist/fascist nationalism). Another kind of nationalism is based on good deeds (American nationalism).


68 posted on 01/26/2019 2:54:47 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Pontiac

German NS was socialist. As was Scandanavian NS. As was Spanish and Italian NS.

Why do you suppose communists wake up in a cold sweat after dreaming about “fascism”?

Because nobody, ever, who has lived under communism looks back on it fondly.


69 posted on 01/26/2019 2:55:05 PM PST by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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To: Pontiac

Hey dumb-bell. The NAZI were fascist. Private ownership of industry and Government control. It is still a socialist type of authoritarian government. That is why Hitler and Mussolini hit it off so well.

Why not read a little history. A collection of facts may be helpful.


70 posted on 01/26/2019 2:55:07 PM PST by Agatsu77
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To: Pontiac
But socialism requires worker ownership and control of the means of production.

Hitler and Mussolini were both pragmatic enough to recognize that an industrialized Germany and Italy would not go directly to a classless society like agrarian Russia did.

71 posted on 01/26/2019 2:56:11 PM PST by fso301
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To: Pontiac

Does he REALLY believe that the workers owned everything in Soviet Russia?


72 posted on 01/26/2019 2:56:12 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Ya lyublyu kovfefe!)
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To: familyop

The Nazis were in fact Internationalists in that they wanted a united Europe under one order.

Gee, what modern organization does that sound like?


73 posted on 01/26/2019 2:56:24 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: sparklite2

What’s it called when the Government owns and controls half of your paycheck and uses political correctness to control thoughts.

Surely that is a form of socialism.


74 posted on 01/26/2019 2:57:14 PM PST by crusher2013
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To: fso301

Hitler gave many speeches hailing the new “Classless” society in Germany. It was an ultimate goal. The business classes would have been eliminated as soon as they were no longer needed.


75 posted on 01/26/2019 2:57:32 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Pontiac

76 posted on 01/26/2019 2:58:14 PM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: familyop
Well, Hitler was a nationalist, which would position him on the right.

But remember, he wanted that "nation" to be the whole planet...therefore...globalist.

77 posted on 01/26/2019 2:58:15 PM PST by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: Pontiac

He moon-beam. Look at the history of racial intolerance in socialist countries. They ALWAYS are racially intolerant.


78 posted on 01/26/2019 2:58:58 PM PST by Agatsu77
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To: familyop

To mean a Nationalist is one who recognizes the Nation-State as the most efficient means of organizing populations with different beliefs and cultures.


79 posted on 01/26/2019 2:59:01 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Agatsu77
He moon-beam. Look at the history of racial intolerance in socialist countries. They ALWAYS are racially intolerant.

Case in point. Communist Bulgaria demanded Muslims adopt Bulgarian names.

80 posted on 01/26/2019 2:59:48 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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