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A 10-year-old kid won a science fair by proving Tom Brady is a cheater
Yahoo Sports ^ | January 24, 2019 | Liz Roscher

Posted on 01/24/2019 5:58:12 PM PST by EdnaMode

Some kids make baking soda and vinegar volcanoes for their science fair projects. Others find a way to turn their passion into a science fair project.

Meet Ace Davis, a 10-year-old kid from Lexington, Kentucky who created a science fair project about Tom Brady. While kids in New England might be trying to figure out how to scientifically prove that Brady is the greatest quarterback who ever lived, Ace decided to go in a different direction. He created a science fair project that proves that Brady is a cheater.

Ace sought to prove that Brady was a cheater through science. He wanted to show that deflated footballs gave Brady a competitive advantage. On his poster, he included the results of experiments he did with his mom and sister. Each of them threw footballs of varying inflation, and he measured the distance of each one and calculated the average. He found that the least inflated football traveled the farthest, therefore giving Brady a competitive advantage.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; Science; Sports
KEYWORDS: acedavis; brady; deflategate; football; local; nfl; patriots; society; tombrady
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To: null and void
"... well DUH, that's what he did! "

I'm not aware of ANY perfect scientific experiments. Perfection is not required. The main requirement is REPEATABILITY.

Everyone conducting this experiment should get the same result. If they don't, then a scientist would examine the experiments to determine what factors may have caused the difference in outcomes. Then new experiments would be performed until some experiment can be repeated with the same results every time.

When, finally, there exists a repeatable experiment, then it might be possible to suggest a theory to explain the experimental outcome. The nature of the theory will suggest additional experiments which can either support the theory or refute it.

What the boy in the story did was definitely science. His conclusion was probably not justified by the experiment because simply being able to throw farther does not necessarily imply that one is throwing BETTER.

What does definitively support the proposition that Brady is a cheater is the fact that what he was doing was against the rules and he probably knew it. One doesn't need a scientific experiment to establish that. That is true whether the cheating helped Brady or not.

Consider, for example, the cheating that Hillary did during the election when she unfairly had knowledge of debate questions. Whatever advantage she got was insufficient to give her a win, but she is definitely a cheater.

61 posted on 01/24/2019 7:15:35 PM PST by William Tell
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To: EdnaMode

Gee, the standards for science projects has really sunk. Wonder if he’d have won anything if he used actual science to debunk globull warming?


62 posted on 01/24/2019 7:17:59 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: EdnaMode; All
Kudos for the kid! He came up with a great scientific hypothesis and proved it with an experiment that he created on his own. Then he disclosed the full methodology and results so anybody else could repeat the experiment and publish the results so the original experiment and its results could be impartially evaluated. That's the heart of the whole scientific method, something many "environmental scientists" have fanatically evaded in their effort to propagate the anthropogenic "global warming" communist fraud.
63 posted on 01/24/2019 7:19:30 PM PST by libstripper
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To: EdnaMode

There’s some ‘science’ for ya, liberal style.


64 posted on 01/24/2019 7:22:17 PM PST by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: EdnaMode
All he did was show that his mother and sister could throw low pressure balls farther. Why? Deflated balls are smaller diameter and these two women could get a better grip.

How does that show Brady cheated? His hands are quite a bit larger, no doubt, and low pressure would give him a minimal advantage, if any.

Also, a lot of science fair judges are not even science teachers. They judge cuteness. Science fairs in schools use whoever they can get - English teacher? No problem!

I saw a totally bogus "experiment" win a state contest. I also saw a well done experiment panned by a "judge" who knew nothing about the science behind the kid's experiment.

65 posted on 01/24/2019 7:34:04 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Kill-googl,TWITR,FACBK,NYT,WaPo,Hlywd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: Raycpa
I would expect that a quarterback would have to practice with the underinflated ball in order to throw it exactly where he wanted it to go. Accuracy is more important than distance.

True. If it gave him better range, he would be overthrowing receivers until he adjusted to it.

66 posted on 01/24/2019 7:39:17 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Kill-googl,TWITR,FACBK,NYT,WaPo,Hlywd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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To: willyd
I agree. Hardly scientific.

He'll make a good climate scientist with a nice government grant.

And someone should warn him about defamation. He's a terrible example for other kids.

67 posted on 01/24/2019 7:40:34 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Right Wing Assault

Well, let’s compare Brady’s stats before and after. Shouldn’t that tell us something? Like in the experiment?


68 posted on 01/24/2019 7:47:45 PM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

No, he was punished for refusing to give his cell phone to the NFL investigators.


Not legitimately. He still hasn’t had a hearing on that despite the collective bargaining agreement. They also pointedly never asked for his phone. The NFL lawyers were adamant that they never did so nor did they suggest to him that he could be punished for it. There’s a lot of innuendo that might *imply* otherwise, but the record is clear.

The only real explanation for what happened is that the League officials were caught looking like fools for not understanding “outdoors” and doubled down.


69 posted on 01/24/2019 7:48:27 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: EdnaMode

ROFL - if he used the data collected by the refs during inflate-gate, the kid should get an F. The data has proven to be as flawed as that for man made climate change.


70 posted on 01/24/2019 7:52:00 PM PST by Ingtar
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To: EdnaMode

No one has figured it out yet.
It was colder in the second half
of the game. Global warming is now
affecting NFL games’ outcomes.


71 posted on 01/24/2019 7:57:33 PM PST by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: null and void

If he had done a proper experiment, at most he could prove was that deflated footballs can be thrown longer.


72 posted on 01/24/2019 7:57:37 PM PST by Ingtar
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To: bagster

Inconceivable!

-SB


73 posted on 01/24/2019 7:58:36 PM PST by Snowybear
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To: Lean-Right

Global warming=Climate change


74 posted on 01/24/2019 7:59:28 PM PST by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: Lean-Right

You’re right. That explains everything!


75 posted on 01/24/2019 7:59:51 PM PST by EdnaMode
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To: EdnaMode

Deflaters gonna deflate.


76 posted on 01/24/2019 8:01:47 PM PST by CJ Wolf (Free. Wwg1wga)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

Oh, YES, we would notice. We can throw balls further which are under-inflated.


Really? In the majority of NFL football games, the footballs are underinflated, and no one notices. The footballs Mahome used were 2.6 PSI (+/- 0.1) lower on the field than they were in the locker room. I didn’t see any notice of him complaining or reporting.

Also, the few other experiments and simulations both that have been done show that the difference for 2.0 PSI (Far larger a difference than any actual 2014 AFCCG footballs) a 20 yard throw is in the opposite direction (shorter), and less than two inches. So, he’d need to explain that.

Here’s an example from Sports Science, which falls well within the other test results: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSJNsGUSAJ8


77 posted on 01/24/2019 8:02:12 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: EdnaMode

Everyone is jealous of Brady. Except Eli.


78 posted on 01/24/2019 8:07:08 PM PST by o-n-money (We should rename California to Newer Mexico.)
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To: William Tell

Playing footballs outdoors is against the rules? At this point, unless you are arguing that the guys deflated and then re-inflated the balls in the bathroom, the evidence the NFL collected actually shows the Patriots *couldn’t* have done what they were accused of. The margins are far too small.

And as for repeatability of this boy’s experiment, his results are in the opposite direction, and very likely well within his margin of error, for the few other test results we have. He’d need to explain that. Maybe he found a loophole in the laws of physics that only applies to footballs in his backyard. None of the pictures, nor the story itself provides sufficient description of his methodology or data/results to attempt to duplicate his results.


79 posted on 01/24/2019 8:09:49 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Raycpa

I would expect that a quarterback would have to practice with the underinflated ball in order to throw it exactly where he wanted it to go. Accuracy is more important than distance.


Not only that, but he’d want every football to be as similar as possible. Variance is the enemy.


80 posted on 01/24/2019 8:11:29 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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