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Bible site where ‘God met Moses’ to be BULLDOZED for 'super city' by Saudi Arabia
The Daily Star UK ^ | January 20, 2019 | Henry Holloway

Posted on 01/22/2019 10:48:08 AM PST by re_tail20

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To: Yosemitest
WRONG! From Mount Sinai is NOT Jebel al-Lawz in Saudi Arabia:
THE EXODUS CHALLENGE

Bob Cornuke and Larry Williams are self-proclaimed “Adventurers of History.” This challenge will be the ultimate adventure to validate their claims that Mt. Sinai is in Saudi Arabia.
The Challenge
Two of the three BASE participants (Bob Cornuke, Larry Williams and/or Ken Durham) are to walk from Tel el-Dab'a (Biblical Rameses) to their Red Sea Crossing, northeast of Sharm el-Shiek, in seven days with one day of rest for the Sabbath (either Saturday or Sunday).

The Conditions
They are to wear sandals and walk on the sandy ground, not on the paved road.

They are to take two ten-year-old children. (Please get a parental consent form signed by both parents. I do not want you to be hauled into court for child abuse). Also bring along two sheep and two goats.

They will be permitted to buy bottled water along the way. I do not want to be responsible for their death by dehydration!

In the event that the pillar of cloud/fire does not reappear, they will be permitted to use road maps and their good judgments as to the timing so as to cover the 350 miles, averaging 58 miles per day, in the allotted time.

The Concessions
They will not have to take 2 million men, women or children with them, nor a herd of cattle, a flock of sheep and herd of goats.

They will not have to bring along any nursing mothers with newborn children.

They will not need to bring along senior citizens. Remember, Moses, Aaron and Miriam were all more than 80 years old.

The Promise
In the unlikely event the challengers are successful, after being observed by a neutral party and documented on video, I (Gordon Franz) will publicly and in print, renounce my articles against the idea that Mt. Sinai is at Jebel al-Lawz and will wholeheartedly endorse their views. I will also donate $1,000 to the BASE Institute.

In the likely event of failure, I will let them decide what their course of action will be.
Ken Durham called this an “intentionally frivolous challenge”! (Letter from Durham, Sept. 7, 2001, p. 7). With all due respect, I am very serious about this challenge because if they walk it, they will abandon the idea because they will know (experientially) that it is impossible. He also objected to placing Rameses at Tell el-Dab’a and would prefer to see it in eastern Goshen. As they say at Burger King, “Have it your way!” I am willing to let you start from the eastern end of the Wadi Tumilat and go the 250 miles you think was the distance.

Durham says, “A steady walking rate of 3.5 miles per hour sustained for 12 hours of navigable daylight results in a ‘days journey’ optimal linear distance of 42 miles. … Therefore, as odd as it may sound to our ears to reckon a ‘day’s journey’ as 42 to 43 miles, it is probably very close to the optimum of the Exodus Hebrews” (Letter from Ken Durham, September 7, 2001, p. 14). He then sets forth his scenario for the distance traveled each day (pp. 13-15). On the first day they traveled 36 miles. The second, 36 miles and camped at Etham, but he does not identify where Etham was located. On the third day they pick up the pace to 16-18 hours per day and travel 45-48 miles. The fourth day they cover 48 miles. The fifth day they cover 40-45 miles, and the sixth day another 45-50 miles. On Shabbat they rested. If they can walk those distances each day, I would be impressed. What really stretches the imagination is his reckoning of the Egyptian forces. Pharaoh had spies following the Israelites for three days. On the third day when they realize the Israelites are not stopping, they return to Pharaoh by the fourth day so he can muster his chariot force and foot soldiers in order to pursue the Israelites. Those spies would have to run back overnight to Pharaoh covering a distance of approximately 120 miles in less than 12-16 hours (running a steady 10 miles per hour!). If Pharaoh were successful in mustering his troops in one day, they would have three days to catch up to the Israelites. They would have to average 83 miles per day, on foot and in chariots, in order to cover the 250 miles in three days! Anybody want to join them?

41 posted on 01/30/2019 10:18:58 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: mewzilla
"The first is to provide a living experience and ideal quality of life"


42 posted on 01/30/2019 11:09:28 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: DannyTN

Lots of hype in this article. The concept is a luxury seaside resort in the same region the Israelis and Egyptians have resorts. I seriously doubt that means going inland to build on the mountain.


43 posted on 01/30/2019 11:16:06 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: montag813
Jebel-al-Lawz

Read the book. It's cheap and enlightening. After you read it, then refute it. I had always thought Sinai, which is a name of more recent provenance, couldn't be right because the Bible puts the Holy Mountain in Midian which is located in the Bible on the other side of the Red Sea. The designation of the mountain at the tip of the Sainai Peninsula was designated as Moses's Holy Mountain by a seer (that's a medium) in the 16th century. From that "revelation" came the construction of St Catherine's Monastery ther.

44 posted on 01/30/2019 11:18:52 AM PST by ThanhPhero
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To: Vermont Lt

Both incidents happened on one Holy Mountain.


45 posted on 01/30/2019 11:19:49 AM PST by ThanhPhero
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To: Vermont Lt

Both incidents happened on one Holy Mountain.


46 posted on 01/30/2019 11:19:56 AM PST by ThanhPhero
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To: SunkenCiv
NYC has about 9 million residents, lots of commercial, government, and cultural ( theatres, museums, libraries, etc. ) buildings, and many parks and green spaces.

If this new city is is supposed to be 33 times larger than NYC, than that would mean that it would has close to 300 MILLION residents?

47 posted on 01/30/2019 12:36:49 PM PST by nopardons
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To: ThanhPhero
St Catherine's has been there since the 6th Century (Byzantine times), and has been called the site of the Burning Bush / Mt Sinai since at least the 4th century.

48 posted on 01/30/2019 1:27:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: nopardons
NYC has a lot of multistorey domiciles (apartment buildings and towers, condos, etc).

49 posted on 01/30/2019 1:29:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: re_tail20

I remember Ron Wyatt’s vids about this.


50 posted on 01/30/2019 5:26:15 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: SunkenCiv
You might be interested in these links.
51 posted on 01/31/2019 2:16:10 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: SunkenCiv
Also, check this out.
52 posted on 01/31/2019 2:49:24 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
Check this out -- Ron Wyatt was a liar and con man.
All the Wyatt claims have already been debunked, and none of the new claims are actually new. The column isn't from Solomon's time, it's Roman. The ruins near the Mountain of Almonds? Nabataean. There is no "land bridge". There are no ancient Egyptian chariot wheels, still on their axles, at the bottom of the Gulf of Aqaba.
Obviously you were not swayed by the sound logic of that challenge.

53 posted on 01/31/2019 9:22:24 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: SunkenCiv
Believe what you wish.
But those chariot wheels and bones in the water there, and melted together sand-and-gravel at that crossing site are REAL !
54 posted on 01/31/2019 1:46:38 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
Believe what you want, but no, as a matter of fact, they are not.

55 posted on 02/01/2019 12:25:15 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: SunkenCiv

Link to your proof.


56 posted on 02/01/2019 5:32:57 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
The proof is everywhere, but since you're mired in Ron Wyatt's cons, there's no point in further conversation about it, you're a hopeless stooge.

57 posted on 02/01/2019 11:17:36 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: SunkenCiv
Just what I thought.
YOU HAVE NO PROOF to back you up, except maybe what a friend's friend's 3rd cousin said he heard.
58 posted on 02/01/2019 3:27:18 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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