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Why Old-Fashioned, Over-the-Air TV Is Booming
Fortune ^ | 1/15/19 | Aaron Pressman

Posted on 01/15/2019 2:40:05 PM PST by Openurmind

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To: nesnah

Wow - Now there’s 2 bruce Springsteen tunes I actually like. Thanks.


101 posted on 01/15/2019 4:56:59 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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To: Openurmind

I buy a $43 Trek antenna from WMart every 2 yrs(that’s how long it seems to last).

So, I pay 21.50 a year for my TV.

Also, my neighbor lets me mooch off his wifi. He refuses to let me give him a cent, so I bring him fresh fruit now and again. It’s the only thing he will take.


102 posted on 01/15/2019 4:57:56 PM PST by Conserv
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To: lowbridge

Thing is, when you get into the n.2, n.3, even n.4 OTA channels, you get all sorts of old stuff hard to find even on cable. “H&I” has Star Trek TOS, TNG, DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise, 6 nights a week. There are lots of 70’s and 80’s cop shows and such. Movies tend to be pre-70’s, or not well known, but I have little time for ‘em anyway. VERY occasionally I will buy a movie from a few years back — year-over-year, the cost is under 1/10 what I’d spend on cable. The only thing I really miss are nature and history documentaries, because our PBS station is too weak to easily receive. But, many such are on You Tube, available 24/7.

To top it off, “Comet” had a Babylon 5 marathon over the Holidays. Woo-Hoo! (Inside joke) :-)


103 posted on 01/15/2019 5:01:32 PM PST by Paul R.
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To: al baby

Whooa, “Space Commander”!
It took a fair amount of force to press those buttons, as I remember. I couldn’t do it these days with my arthritic thumbs!


104 posted on 01/15/2019 5:06:33 PM PST by Tellurian (DemoniKKKrats would smugly tell even God "you didn't build that".)
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To: fella

And that’s the sneaky part of the mess. I remember when the “deal” was pay for TV and you do not get commercials. They slipped it in on everyone and then even raised the rates and we let them.

Good to see I’m not the only one who saw this.


105 posted on 01/15/2019 5:07:34 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: Army Air Corps
There are a helluva lot of channels available over the air now.

There are about 72 of them in the Chicago area. Of that 72, only about 9 of which aren't (a)religious programming; (b)shopping networks;(c)spanish language;(d)polish language;(e)chinese/asian language.

I'm not kidding.

106 posted on 01/15/2019 5:10:49 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

Do any of them air Bill Swerski’s Super Fans?


107 posted on 01/15/2019 5:13:32 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: LouieFisk

I watched a video on YouTube how to make a digital antenna, I picked up 14 channels, all from metal coat hangers, made another one a year later with 30 “ears” and picked up 23. It was a fun DIY project, i used the signal strength meter on the TV to find the sweet spot on my roof.


108 posted on 01/15/2019 5:13:53 PM PST by Ponyexpress9790
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To: Openurmind

there are so many more surface antenna channels today. I have a smart tv and it allows you to know the schedule of the channel you are receiving and breaks down the programing. there are over 40 channels listed but being practical about 20 channels you might use. Lots of programing from the 70,80,90 that is shown on theses extra channels which is ok because they are the shows of my childhood. some shows are just as good today as they were when they aired but some shows just make you cringe when you watch them. as a 10 year old The six million doller man was my show. today watching it makes me cringe especially when I watch the special effects or references to technology


109 posted on 01/15/2019 5:14:02 PM PST by PCPOET7
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To: Paul R.

Yep. well done. Thank you.


110 posted on 01/15/2019 5:14:56 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: Army Air Corps
Do any of them air Bill Swerski’s Super Fans?

Nope.

111 posted on 01/15/2019 5:17:22 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Paul R.

Bounce TV had a Roots marathon, and I ended up watching the entire thing.

I was a kid when it came out and never had seen it before.

As for sports, I can watch anything that’s not on ESPN.

Can’t wait for the Masters in April.... and I have been peeking at the NFL playoffs.

Go Brady. And, go Rams.


112 posted on 01/15/2019 5:21:06 PM PST by Conserv
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To: Heart of Georgia

Uh, no way is 150 mile reception (unless you are having a “skip” night) likely.

A broadcast antenna (actual radiating elements) 2000 ft. above average terrain has a radio horizon) service range of about 63 miles. A tall receiving antenna will help, mostly by getting you above some of the local “clutter”, and by extending the radio horizon slightly. (Approximately, for the latter, add your antenna height to the broadcast antenna’s height.)

https://www.everythingrf.com/rf-calculators/line-of-sight-calculator

You will be better off with a good antenna (say, Stellar Labs # 30-2415 or 30-2370, or equivalent of similar design: see my post 92) on a tall tower, with a rotator, than a dish at a manageable height (assuming your “house” is not 50 ft. tall, with a spot on the roof you can place the dish.)

The dish will also be very directional —good for gain & multipath, but a pain to point, esp if you have multiple stations at varying directions. If you have a tall house and can work some sort of turntable for the dish - well, maybe...

Even then, 80 miles is probably tops under most atmospheric circumstances.


113 posted on 01/15/2019 5:29:20 PM PST by Paul R.
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To: Conserv

I was a little bummed that the Clemson-Alabama (Championship) game was not OTA-TV, AND, very difficult to get here on radio, too. (Faded in and out, finally “out” pretty much for good, in the 4th quarter.)

I’ll live. :-)


114 posted on 01/15/2019 5:35:06 PM PST by Paul R.
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To: LouieFisk

and real 1080p reception for sports and documentaries. Cable and satellite must compress their signal.


115 posted on 01/15/2019 5:36:26 PM PST by John 3_19-21 (Subterfuge, innuendo, miss quotes, and out right lies, This is the American Misleadia.)
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To: Paul R.

Yeah. Damn ESPN hogged all the bowl games.

I had to go to a friend’s house a few times.


116 posted on 01/15/2019 5:39:58 PM PST by Conserv
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To: freedumb2003
There are a couple of channels that show old shows that I really don’t want to let go, through...the government required local TV stations to provide over the air digital signals as well as selling their programming to cable and satellite companies when the new technology took over a few years back - the digital signal takes up less of the over the air channel than the old analogue signal did, so most stations got a couple of extra "signals" to use for programming - a number of new programming sources have grown up to help fill these extra signals all over the country - stations like ME, WE, COZI, ANTENNA, UP, DECADES, MOVIES! and THIS are all pretty much available in most big city areas and some in less populous areas depending on what services local channels pick up to help fill their extra broadcasting capacity - all of these feature programs from the past from "Leave It To Beaver" to "Mary Tyler Moore" to "Perry Mason" and on and on - lovers of old shows are well taken care of over the digital airwaves......
117 posted on 01/15/2019 5:40:33 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Openurmind

Thank YOU!


118 posted on 01/15/2019 5:50:03 PM PST by Paul R.
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To: Openurmind

TDS Cable is fighting with Nexstar Media Group which owns 177 TV stations in the across US. Because a contract is not in place, at midnight December 31 TDS was required to take down all NexStar channels across its distribution area in Indiana, Oregon, New Mexico, Texas, Tennessee, Colorado, Utah and Nevada over what TDS CEO Jim Butman said was an unreasonable demand for an “up to 129%” retransmission consent rate increase.

In Oil Patch City, NM, we lost both CBS and Fox from Albuquerque. For a while the CBS station in Odessa Texas was still on the cable but last week it came down too. Turns out Fox Lubbock is over the air here and by switching to antenna from cable we can get Fox for the NFL playoffs. TDS suggested we download the NFL app for mobile devices and we can watch the playoffs and the Super Bowl on CBS on a really small screen.

There is reportedly no progress in negotiations with Nexstar so the channels remain dark. I don’t know which comes first — end of the border wall Federal partial shutdown or restoration of major network cable channels.


119 posted on 01/15/2019 5:50:12 PM PST by CedarDave (Democrats: Creating a dependency class using open borders and voter fraud to get and keep power.)
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To: Paul R.

You explained it much better than I think I could have. I would have probably got too technical with actual frequencies, DB ratings, stub adjustments, Etc. lol

Really, that was just a succinct understandable very well worded explanation. :)


120 posted on 01/15/2019 6:00:53 PM PST by Openurmind
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