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Airlines say goodbye to the 747 amid a transformation in international travel
Market Watch ^ | 12/29/18 | Robert Wall

Posted on 12/30/2018 9:48:00 PM PST by Simon Green

About a year ago, a Boeing 747 operated by Delta Air Lines DAL, took off from Atlanta for a three-hour flight to Pinal Airpark, a boneyard for unwanted aircraft in Arizona’s Sonoran Desert.

The once celebrated giant of the sky, which had transformed international travel with its size and range, had flown its last flight for a U.S. airline.

Delta has replaced its fleet of jumbo jets with Airbus A350s, one of a new breed of smaller, ultraefficient long-range airliners. Nearly every other airline in the world is doing a version of the same thing, replacing huge jets with smaller ones.

The newer planes, which include the Boeing 787 Dreamliner, are redrawing the map for global air travel. They can fly just as far as the jumbos, but often are less expensive to operate on a per-seat basis. They allow airlines to offer multiple flights on routes that once justified only a single big aircraft. That helps fill seats and boost profits.

For passengers, this is a mixed blessing. As planes get smaller and flights more frequent, long-haul travel is taking on some of the cattle-car characteristics of domestic travel—inexpensive tickets, cramped seats and no free meals.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Travel
KEYWORDS: airbus; airbusa350; arizona; boeing; boeing747; boeing787; boeing787dreamliner; cattlecargalactica; coach; dreamliner; letsflycoach; pinalairpark
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The last time I flew on a 747 was a couple of years ago on a short haul flight within Thailand. I was flying business class but got upgraded to first. The flight only lasted for a bit over an hour, but it was a wonderful hour!


1 posted on 12/30/2018 9:48:00 PM PST by Simon Green
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To: Simon Green

2 engines are far cheaper than four.


2 posted on 12/30/2018 9:57:04 PM PST by Loud Mime (Liberalism: intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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To: Loud Mime

Not only that, but 747s engines are less efficient that the newer designed engines that have more power and better fuel economy.

Then add on lighter plane weight due to composite body design...


3 posted on 12/30/2018 10:00:28 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Simon Green

My only time on a 747 was on the Braniff orange one from Dallas to Honolulu in the mid 1970’s.


4 posted on 12/30/2018 10:02:40 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: Simon Green

747 was queen of the air.

727 was the king.


5 posted on 12/30/2018 10:02:45 PM PST by A strike (Import Third World become Third World)
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To: Simon Green

40 years in the air was a good run.


6 posted on 12/30/2018 10:04:08 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Simon Green
The year I was born Delta Airlines bought DC-7s and Lockheed Constellations...

They were still flying DC-3s.

7 posted on 12/30/2018 10:04:44 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I am told the 747 is still the king of air freight.


8 posted on 12/30/2018 10:05:56 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: higgmeister

There are still DC-3s flying and making money for small airlines. Take a lot more than a 40-year run to beat that record.


9 posted on 12/30/2018 10:09:12 PM PST by GMMC0987
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To: crusty old prospector

My airlines of choice then were Braniff, Air Canada, and American.


10 posted on 12/30/2018 10:10:46 PM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: rlmorel

Yes. There are 747s with, “FedEx” markings at LAX


11 posted on 12/30/2018 10:13:46 PM PST by BigEdLB (BigEdLB, Russian BOT, At your service)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
In a few years, after a short period of airline profitability, brought on by lower fuel prices, is crushed by foolhardy union demands, the price of fuel will go up, the cost of flying will rise due to new union contracts and higher fuel prices, and the amortization of the costs of the new jets, so they'll try to boost ticket sales by removing seats. It's almost as if this has happened before. When Frank Borman ran Eastern Airlines, he guessed wrongly that the price of airline fuel was going to remain high, even go higher over time (peak oil nonsense), and "invested" in fuel efficient airframes. Between that wrong move, and the vitriol from the head of one of the unions, Borman was out, and Leastearn Airlines (euphemism) collapsed.

12 posted on 12/30/2018 10:13:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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They've got large cargo capacity, and at this point the used ones will have nice low prices. And for their use, they have great range.

13 posted on 12/30/2018 10:16:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: Simon Green

I was working as an intern for Phillips Petroleum in 1971. Part of my job was fuel maintenance systems at Stapleton airport in Denver, Colorado. They brought in 747’s while I was working there. They had to rework the runways and ramps in order to hold the weight.

Since we were running around at ramp level, all we could do was look up at the gargantuan beasts. During the first month, one of the airline fueling guys took a couple of us up the outside stairway of a parked 747 and gave us a look around the front of the plane and into the cockpit.

During my career, I have flown over a million miles. Some of the most pleasant have been business class on 747’s between the States and Europe and Japan. The upstairs cabin was nice going to Japan. I laid out on the floor behind the seats in order to take a nap.


14 posted on 12/30/2018 10:19:53 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: higgmeister

I went on a Constellation they’re re-doing in Missouri. Very nice for the era.


15 posted on 12/30/2018 10:37:27 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Simon Green

Nearly 2M business air miles under my tush, much of it Seattle to Asia. I used to go out of my way to fly a 747 business cabin (upstairs). It was a great ride. I’ll miss the Queen of the Skies!


16 posted on 12/30/2018 10:41:04 PM PST by llevrok (Vote while it's still legal)
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To: Simon Green

Spent a significant part of my life aboard 747’s. Still queen of the skies, in my book.


17 posted on 12/30/2018 10:41:37 PM PST by katana
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To: SunkenCiv

boost ticket sales by removing seats.


Suppose they removed all the seats except for one.
Would that lead to the maximum boost in ticket sales?


18 posted on 12/30/2018 10:51:04 PM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: GMMC0987

I worked for Trans-Texas Airways ‘63-’65, at Dallas Love Field. DC-3s were the main fleet. Most of the aircraft had placards showing they were made in 1935-37, over 80 years ago. ..........Designated as C-47s for the military in WW II, they were workhorses!


19 posted on 12/31/2018 12:02:42 AM PST by octex
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To: crusty old prospector

The back end of a 747 is just as much cattlecar as any other airliner. Flew BA to continental europe in ‘ 81

CC


20 posted on 12/31/2018 12:09:03 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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