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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD DEC 29, 2018
freerepublic | DEC 29, 2018 | greeneyes

Posted on 12/29/2018 6:10:27 PM PST by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds.

From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table(recipes)preserving, good living - there is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed any time-and don't have to be about gardening.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; gardening; germination; hobby; seed
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To: greeneyes

how cold does your area get?.......can this lettuce survive really cold temps?


21 posted on 12/29/2018 9:37:06 PM PST by cherry (official troll)
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To: MtnClimber; greeneyes; All

Do you cut your own firewood? Firewood here is $300 to 350 a cord so we put in a gas insert. We have chosen to not install window curtains because of the views out side and that adds to our heating costs. My vetch overcrop is staying ahead of the weeds and looks great...


22 posted on 12/29/2018 9:37:42 PM PST by tubebender
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To: greeneyes; All
Flikr photo storage is going to start charging for me to link photos like this so if my old photos disappear that is the reason. Another view of the vetch from a few days ago. and yes, the sun has been shining for several days..

IMG_1704

23 posted on 12/29/2018 9:48:51 PM PST by tubebender
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To: JockoManning

I have not harvested turmeric yet. I had some tubers given to me end of last winter which I transplanted. Then I just dug them up and repotted to let them grow some more.

Several I thought were dead, but the person who gave them to me told me that if I planted them, they would “come back” and they did. It took a couple of months and so they weren’t very big. I did have one that had stalks about 30” tall-probably could have harvested, but didn’t-just transplanted to bring it in.

I’d think that any citrus fertilizer would be good for banana, but I have no experience/knowledge. I use dyna-gro 7-9-5 which has minerals too for all my veggies and fruits that are potted-it works well on the lemon tree too, even though it’s not specifically for citrus.


24 posted on 12/29/2018 10:29:03 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: cherry

We get temps from around -5 to 49 in the winters. Usually not below -5 F, but have had worse. Typically though, the temp changes quickly, so freezing isn’t prolonged.

Some winters though we do have a couple of months of non-stop freezing cold. It’s been years since we had one of those, but I do expect them to start up again, due to lack of solar activity.

One of the colder winters, I put some straw on top of the row covers to give it additional protection. Sometimes on a sunny day in the 40s I will roll up the row cover in the afternoon for additional sun and mold prevention and then cover it up again when sun starts to go down.

Little Gem lettuce also did well in winter.


25 posted on 12/29/2018 10:38:50 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: tubebender

When the kids were small, the neighborhood guys used to go out to the nearby Federal Forest and cut up the wood and bring it back - neighbor was a Forest Ranger, and always knew where the trees marked were.

Now we have lots of wood stacked, but rarely use it-from the trees hubby cut down as he built more and more gardens. We also have 20 uncleared acres north of town, in case we would need it.

In the 80s and 90s we could get a load of wood for 50 bucks. I have no idea what it costs today. Next time I have a local paper I’ll check to see if the price has gone up.


26 posted on 12/29/2018 10:43:00 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: tubebender

Nice pics. Thanks for sharing.


27 posted on 12/29/2018 10:43:48 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: cherry

Another thing I could do, which hasn’t been necessary yet:
One of the raised beds is against a retaining wall, which has an outdoor electrical out let. I could plug in a 100 watt bulb and get enough heat for the coldest nights. I have about a dozen stashed away along with some 75 and 60 incandescents.

I’d encircle them with something to keep the row cover off the light. Might even be able to use a crock pot when I have no more light bulbs.


28 posted on 12/29/2018 10:49:08 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: DuncanWaring

Avoid creosote-treated wood.
It is deadly poison and will leach into the soil.

Utility poles and RR ties in some locations still use this product to keep bugs at bay.
Koppers Corp is the main importer from steel mills in Mexico.


29 posted on 12/30/2018 4:29:38 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: greeneyes

Me neither!


30 posted on 12/30/2018 5:30:03 AM PST by left that other site (For America to have CONFIDENCE in our future, we must have PRIDE in our HISTORY... DJT)
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To: greeneyes

An illuminted light bulb inserted in the boat’s I/O engine compartment will ward off a freeze as long as it isn’t really really cold.


31 posted on 12/30/2018 6:34:00 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission; Eric in the Ozarks; greeneyes
How about putting linseed oil on the frames?

It appears some people actually consume it intentionally.

32 posted on 12/30/2018 6:52:24 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

That might be worth trying.
Linseed is mixed as an extended with paint.


33 posted on 12/30/2018 7:04:48 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: mythenjoseph
mythenjoseph : "I am dumbfounded as I was normally up north in Massachusetts
and the last 10 years in Maine
...any advice from freepers in this section of our GREAT Republic...this is all upside down to me."

I have suffered a similar fate coming from the 'snowey climes' into citrus & palm country gardening.
I suggest you contact the nearest Farm Bureau, Agriculture college, and or Co-Operative Extension office.
Many of these non-profits will offer free, or low cost, brochures and information fact sheets.
They can offer information as to the local climatic season planting/ harvesting cycle, pests, and will be happy to do it.
Use local garden supply centers for information about what cultivars do best in your area;
the smaller suppliers will be the most helpful, and will take time to explain.
Stay in touch, and keep us informed as to how you are doing;
you will learn more from your failures, ..than you will from your successes !

34 posted on 12/30/2018 8:15:43 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: greeneyes; MomwithHope; MtnClimber
greeneyes :" Well, I remember that a guy from New England used to plant a four season harvest,
and he used compost as the heat source, so maybe that really rich and deep soil is the answer."

Exactly true !
There is a cold frame for spring start-ups, and by adding more compost there is heat given off
Then , by adding a "hot manure" (high nitrogen content)like fresh horse or chicken manure
the compost gives off heat to the soil while oxidizing and breaking down.
Instructions for cold frames and hot beds (cold frame with manure)can be found at :
http://www.savvygardener.com/Features/cold_frames-hotbeds.html

It should be known that George Washington used both 'Cold frames' and "hot beds" in colonial times in Mt. Vernon.
The hot bed is nothing new; it's a cold frame with a Nitrogen source; it's just a forgotten horticultural practice.

35 posted on 12/30/2018 8:35:30 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: DuncanWaring
DuncanWaring :" Anyone got any definitive reasons to use untreated wood?

If using untreated wood, use wood that is rot resistant:
spruce , locust, cedar (but cedar is expensive).
Contact a local sawmill in your area to see what they suggest, given your application.

36 posted on 12/30/2018 9:02:22 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: tubebender

We have done our own wood for 34 years. Our 10 acres is mostly red oak, a little cherry and sassafras. Our house was built in 1984 and is super insulated. We burn less than 2 cords a winter in the downstairs woodstove. We only burn in the evening. The rest of the time it’s LP gas we have “the pig” outside. So our LP bill is pretty low. Plus our house is passive solar. That extra insulation was really worth it. We have lots of glass too, two 8 foot sliders and one 16 foot slider. No curtains. Great view.


37 posted on 12/30/2018 9:08:43 AM PST by MomwithHope
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To: DuncanWaring

I’ve actually been very happy building my beds with cinderblocks. I turn them hole-side up, fill them up with dirt, and use them as flowerpots for herbs/bush beans/other small plants, up to about broccoli size.


38 posted on 12/30/2018 12:13:50 PM PST by MightyMama
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To: greeneyes

Cool and damp in Southwest Missouri this weekend. We’re shacked up in a condo in Branson for a few days. No water coming out of Table Rock which has made the trout fishing on Taneycomo less than good. We’ve managed to fool a few, but we’re not breaking any records for sure. Rain chased us off the lake this afternoon. Maybe tomorrow will be better.


39 posted on 12/30/2018 1:44:46 PM PST by Augie
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To: MightyMama

I’ve considered using some sort of masonry, but unless I cement it together and pour some sort of a footing I expect it would fall apart after a few years.


40 posted on 12/30/2018 3:30:18 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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