Posted on 12/29/2018 5:14:21 AM PST by Labyrinthos
“Bizarre Foods” host Andrew Zimmern has been axed from prime time on the Travel Channel amid the controversy over his assertion that Chinese food in the Midwest is being served in “horses - - t restaurants.”
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Hsu's at Peachtree Center downtown is pretty good. Even my Singaporean wife likes it, and she is extremely critical of most Chinese restaurants in the US. :)
Have you ever had Chinese food from the East coast? More specifically, the North East. I’ve had it in MA my home State, FL where I lived for 25 years and here in MO (including the Cashew Chicken capitol, Springfield, MO) and like all the other restaurant food out here in the Midwest, it’s bland.
I don’t think I ever had bad Chinese food in Mass. Found a few good places and the rest were ok in FL. Found one place with good fried rice here in MO but everything else sucks. Found another place with decent food except for the fried rice which sucks. Most every meat dish is sweet even if it isn’t supposed to be.
It’s a regional thing. The coasts have been getting spices for hundreds of years but the Midwest only since mass production, mass shipping has been available.
Smokehouse/BBQ joints in FL - very flavorful, fall off the bone, fork tender. There’s some old black guys with roadside stands/smokehouses that cook some awesome stuff.
Here in MO, better hang on to that rib firmly with both hands when taking a bite, oh, and it’s bland. This was a top rated bbq place that everyone raved about, including the city people that have recreational property here.
Pizza, all good in Mass, most good in FL and Casey’s convenient store has the best pizza here with Red Baron being a close runner up. Papa John’s didn’t even taste like Papa John’s.
Still not sure what all the rave is about KC Strip either. Seems like it’s a hit or miss cut of meat. I’ve had two good ones out of ten. Gimme a ribeye.Can’t screw that up.
If I get downtown I’ll have to try it.
Lots of good choices on/around Buford Highway in Doraville and Chamblee, and lots of great Korean around Gwinnett Place.
Where I live the Chinese restaurants clone their menus, all have the same menu and they all seem run by Mainland Chinese. I rarely spend my money in them. There are a few Chinese buffets that cost about 10$ (lunch not dinner) after tipping. I prefer them because I can pick out exactly what I want to eat. IOW if too greasy then I skip it. Lots of good fish and seafood options at one of them.
>>All of these tv chefs and traveling tv foodies are deeply obnoxious, conceited and annoying so I’m not surprised another one’s mouth ran away from him. Whether he should be fired is another thing.
From the God of Cookery
scene of dispute between 2 street food vendors with heckling from a fallen prestigous chef (comedy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4F4vdojiYY
That's not my take; rather, he simply wants to give people an opportunity to eat a more authentic Chines meal, than what is typically found in the mid-west (and other areas). For those people who still crave horsesh-t Chines food, there will still be plenty of places to eat.
Restaurants adjust their menu and pricing to the locale in order to stay in business.
Yes, and some of the best Chinese restaurants where I have eaten are inexpensive, mom & pop places in the Chinatowns located in Flushing Queens, Elmhurst Queens Lower Manhattan, Boston, Philadelphia, etc., where the prices are similar to the horsesh-t places, but the food is authentic and delicious.
You are absolutely right about that.
>>The guy sounds like another elitist who knows what’s best for everyone. Restaurants adjust their menu and pricing to the locale in order to stay in business. The free market system provides en excellent feedback loop. Since the days of the California Gold Rush, Chinese restaurants have adjusted their menus to local tastes and budgets
Seinfeld Clip - Babhu Bhat And The Cafe’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUPH5OhXC1A
Obnoxious. But their minion-contestants using braggadocio is worse. There are always contestants who are gay and want to make life better for her/it’s/his significant other.
You will not find better Southeast Asian food, especially Vietnamese, anywhere than in Fort Smith, Arkansas.
He even did a show about it.
Why? Fort Chaffee is where they brought the refugees.
I once saw several whole frozen chickens hanging on a dumpster to thaw in the hot sun behind a very popular Chinese buffet joint in southwest Houston.
You’re absolutely correct about the pizza and chinese food in MA. Its hard to complain about any of the food up that way. Altho Tortilla flats was pretty bad...in NH. Everything was made with maranara sauce and mozerella chese. There was nothing Mexican about it lol!
Course back then it was different. You can get jalapeno poppers in Appleby’s now!
I find it amazing that the oriental food is so bad in mid KS, because there are so many places owned by orientals. Everything from Tai to Vietnamese, chinese, Japanese...you name it, its here. The only place I find safe and reasonable is China Wall, and only certain ones. I think its a chain, but only one that I know of is good.
Well, this couldn't happen to a nicer sack of horseshit. This dude Zimmern is a fat dressed-up mama's boy, a namby-pamby libtard who constantly works in references to cultural appropriation but apparently it is 'ok when Andrew does it'.
At least with Bourdain, what you saw was what you got - and he was an equal-opportunity hater who stuck it to the Left now and then, and no matter the man's warped mind and neo-progressive politics (once comparing vegetarians to the Hezbollah), he liked shooting guns. And pigs. “I like holding guns, I like shooting guns,” Bourdain confessed.
One last note, even though Travel Channel 'banished' Fat Boy to Saturdays, uh, that's pretty much the 'other' prime time for Travel Channel, having a long history of Saturday marathons for their most popular shows.
Also, apparently the Cooking Channel and The Food Network were not as "outraged" lol.
"It is believed Zimmern’s shows on the Cooking Channel and the Food Network will continue as scheduled."
Bingo.
Umami
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami
That’s the taste that’s missing in most everything out here in MO. It used to be done with MSG but it can be done without that. A quick salt/sugar brine for meat will do it, especially when grilled after brining.
To a degree he has a point and articulated it the wrong way. Instead of talking about the generational change in cooking he used his version of HS .
The original immigrants tended to migrate to the coasts and brought their traditional versions of their foods with them.
The future generations moved to different parts of the country and the quality of the original deteriorated.
Small sample and dated to the early 70’s the quality of the Minnesota and small town Texas Chinese was vastly different than the East Coast originals we grew up with.
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