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Posted on 12/22/2018 8:10:58 AM PST by Java4Jay

There are essential and non-essential federal employees. During a shutdown the non-essential do not report to work while the essential MUST or risk termination. Neither group receives pay while the shutdown is in effect. When it's all settled and everyone gets their back pay, the non-essential group received paid days off while the ones that were required to report for duty got shafted.


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To: Java4Jay

In a line of work that is all but free of risk of termination, demotion, not being paid etc. a little rain must fall.

Have you ever been terminated out of hand for no reason at all?
How about learning you don’t have a job when your paycheck bounces?
Working overtime and lots of it without any compensation at all because you are a salaried employee and it is just expected of you?

These are just a few of the joys of the private sector.

Life is sometimes tough. You have to be prepared for those days when the eagle just can’t poop out the paycheck on time.

Have a nice day. You get absolutely no sympathy from me.


81 posted on 12/22/2018 8:53:55 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchaged our dreams for survival. We just ha va few days that don't suck.)
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To: Java4Jay

Which brings up the question of why we have non-essential employees in the first place.


82 posted on 12/22/2018 8:54:32 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Twitter is Trump's laser pointer and the media are all cats.)
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To: Java4Jay
ya gonna melt?
83 posted on 12/22/2018 8:55:08 AM PST by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: Java4Jay

PS: You and your buds need to call smuckie shumer and sanfrannan and tell them to start doing the work of the nation instead of the work of the rat party.

I still wish you a nice day.


84 posted on 12/22/2018 8:57:03 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchaged our dreams for survival. We just ha va few days that don't suck.)
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To: Java4Jay

The only problem I see is paying non-essential employees for not working. That’s ridiculous.


85 posted on 12/22/2018 8:57:34 AM PST by plain talk
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To: fruser1
Calculate your cost of benefits to see how much you REALLY are making. Compare that to the average for the rest of the US.

I never and will never complain about my compensation working for DOD. It is a good job with good pay and benefits, even considering all of the BS that you have to put up with from purchasing/contracting to complying with environmental regs, audits, etc., etc., etc.....

I'm always pointing this out to the whiners at work.

86 posted on 12/22/2018 8:57:59 AM PST by seowulf
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To: seowulf

If they’re necessary to keep the infrastructure running then they’re essential. The point is, if they’re not essential, what are they doing there? Waiters and cashiers are in fact essential if the cook is busy cooking.


87 posted on 12/22/2018 8:58:46 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Java4Jay

Yup. Worked every holiday and thru every furlough except the one I was laid off during 33 years of Federal service. I gave the US Army my first 6 Christmas days as CQ and 5 of 6 New Year’s Day simply because I was single living in the barracks. Oh to be one of America’s finest in the 82d Abn Div. No regrets because I was taught to be Tolerant even when I was getting the worst. Too bad folks today forgot about Tolerance and self sacrifice.


88 posted on 12/22/2018 8:59:23 AM PST by Jumper
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To: Java4Jay

So you’re basically complaining that the ones that aren’t working are going to get paid anyway. Join the club.


89 posted on 12/22/2018 9:00:38 AM PST by stevio (MAGA)
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To: right way right

“Why do we have non essential employees anyway?”

That is a misnomer, at least NASA. I’m a contractor working for NASA. “Essential employees” are those who are supporting in-progress manned space flight or tests that are in progress that cannot be stopped without costing large, sometimes enormous, sums of money.

I work in the calibration facility, and we have 3 people deemed “essential” as contractors. If a priority calibration came up to support human space flight operations or one of the few “critical” tests in progress, they would be required to go to work and perform the calibration.

Other than that, our lab is closed.


90 posted on 12/22/2018 9:01:55 AM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: right way right
Good question. I've worked a very minimal number of government jobs in my lifetime, mainly duties of an elective office which are 2 to 3 paid days per year for a very long day. The rest of the time it is gratis.

The other 363 days or so per year, I work in the private sector. If you aren't essential, then you aren't employed.

91 posted on 12/22/2018 9:02:39 AM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Java4Jay

There’s a third group - those that have to report for work but do get paid during a shutdown. (We always hoped the folks processing our paychecks were deemed essential).


92 posted on 12/22/2018 9:02:59 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Java4Jay

Those reporting aren’t getting shafted.....they’re reporting for work as usual.


93 posted on 12/22/2018 9:04:04 AM PST by caww
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To: Java4Jay
exempt vs non-exempt

No, that isn't the distinction. You had it right the first time - Essential vs non-essential. A non-exempt in a critical area may have to show up, while a non-essential exec may sit at home.

94 posted on 12/22/2018 9:05:08 AM PST by PAR35
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To: gunnut

On the contract that I am on at NASA, we got back pay the last time the government shut down. But we had it specifically written into our contract that if government employees were sent home for a facility closure, we would be reimbursed.

Sadly, our new contract does not have that written in this time. We have to use vacation days to make up for the missed work days.


95 posted on 12/22/2018 9:07:02 AM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: JimRed
The problem isn't nonessential American employees.
The problem is nonessential ILLEGALS.
They are still shopping with EBT cards and living in federally subsidized housing and being treated free by our medical institutions while Americans are not being paid.
It's because of the ILLEGALS sucking here. Trump did what he had to. The anger and complaints are misdirected. Stop the influx of third world parasites then stop rewarding those here.
96 posted on 12/22/2018 9:10:51 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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To: Java4Jay

I’m an essential Government employee, I work for the pay and benefits offered. I get paid for the work I do. I am not shafted. I can feed my family and I have my health, the world has dealt me more than a fair hand.


97 posted on 12/22/2018 9:11:25 AM PST by dangerdoc
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To: Sequoyah101

Many on this thread don’t get what I’m trying to project, maybe its my wording. I’m a Conservative who believes in giving my all at work. I’m very much aware where my paycheck comes from. I worked private sector all my life until I was 50 years old when the career of my choice vanished (airline industry).

It’s messed up when the folks report for duty, give a good days work, go through the stress of nut-jobs on the road to get home yet still do not receive a paycheck at the end of the pay period. Unless you go through it, it kinda feels like working for free.

Another point. Not all federal jobs pay 6 figures. Some of the posts here you can see a Socialistic feeling. You got more than I got so I don’t like you or I don’t get what you got so it’s unfair.


98 posted on 12/22/2018 9:12:10 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay

“I’m a Federal Employee:”

Unless you’re “really working” get a real job and stop feeding at the trough.


99 posted on 12/22/2018 9:12:12 AM PST by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Someone has to push paperwork.


100 posted on 12/22/2018 9:12:20 AM PST by marajade
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