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8 tips to help non-techies move to Linux
OpenSource.com ^ | 17 December 2018 | Scott Nesbitt

Posted on 12/19/2018 4:28:57 AM PST by ShadowAce

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To: perfect_rovian_storm

That’s because Windows is mailing every move you make to vendors. j/k

Non-techies are the ones who need to go to Linux because they are the ones getting infected.
If you are using Office products to their limits, you are not a non-techie. And then, Office 365 in the cloud on Linux.


41 posted on 12/19/2018 6:07:23 AM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Applications load amazingly fast.


42 posted on 12/19/2018 6:08:10 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: ShadowAce
I don't like paying a company to maintain control over my computer. I don't like not having control over updates to my computer

You can opt out of both.

I don't like having to run anti-virus, anti-malware, etc just to use my computer

You do not. I have not run such. Most of my approx. 18 years of very extensive use of Windows (right now with over 400 tabs open), though i do let Windows Defender "run" but not do scans. Amd only had 2 infections in that time, years ago, thanks be to God. Pray and be careful where you "drive," and the "passengers" you let in. I do run the MVPS host file (edited) though.

I don't like having to pay subscription fees (Office) for software I (supposedly) bought

You should not to buy them, since Apache and Libre OpenOffice should do the job for most.

I don't like contributing money to Leftist causes that MS supports

True, and which is why i choose AMD over pro-LBGT Intel, but now i see this ) for a CPU, and it is hardly possible to avoid all such, and which you likely supported if you bought any cell/smart phone.

I don't like my operating system to "call home" because the company who sold me the operating system refuses to trust me

That can be prevented in Win/10.

I don't like a company that refuses to trust me, but I cannot trust them, even with something as simple as a monthly update (see October 2018 update).

I actually had more problems with Linux (corrupted depository or other errors, plus lack of support for some wireless, etc. ), and Linux forums well attest to this, relative to the number of users.

I have tried every major and some minor Linux distros over the years, and it had much potential, but for me Linux is too restrictive in terms of range of available software of comparable working functionality (no real alternative to AutoHotKey for one) despite the lists Linux users post. But if it works for you, fine. Thank God for alternatives.

43 posted on 12/19/2018 6:09:01 AM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What type (connection) of kbrd is it?


44 posted on 12/19/2018 6:11:15 AM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: ShadowAce

Quick questions - quick answers appreciated.

1) How often do you need to end up on a command line to accomplish a necessary task?

2) For people with a need for standard web access, email, texting, word processing, Excel, PowerPoint, etc. what is the best shell?

3) With this command I think I could look at large file usage: “du -s * | sort -nr > $HOME/user_space_report.txt”

I assume this is case-sensitive?

4) Can you use Linux without command line necessities for #2 tasks?

I used to be a .Bat file expert, Quick Basic and assembly guy from the 80’s but along came GUI/Windows.

The Linux command line seems overly complex and unforgiving.

I wish they’d based the command line on the .Bat format but that’s just because it seems more straight-forward.

No rush - my only Linux experience was to make a boot-able thumbdrive to change some corrupted filenames with non-widows compatible characters to be accessible.

Lastly - sorry for the quick question suggestion at the beginning. ;-)


45 posted on 12/19/2018 6:16:16 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: AppyPappy

I still play command and conquer -generals, a lot. ALso, I use VDI on it to work from home, and I also use powerpoint to create sunday school lessons and then dump them on my wife’s laptop for church.

That last line implies that I need the latest version of office on both machines and am paying the $100 a year fee for it. I’d have to go Linux for both of them to make it worthwhile.


46 posted on 12/19/2018 6:18:39 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Dahoser

You’re going to narrow 900 distros down to 4 or 5 and let this non-techie “take them for a spin”?

LOLOLOL...that’s the stupidest thing I’ve read in ages.

99% of people want their computer to operate like their toaster, refrigerator, or car. You just use it to get something done.

This MIGHT have been a fine article in 1998. In 2018? There is nobody in the 350 million people in the U.S. who will do this stuff.


47 posted on 12/19/2018 6:21:04 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Tunehead54
1) How often do you need to end up on a command line to accomplish a necessary task?

*need*? It really depends on the task, but I've heard people can go years without ever touching the command line. I just feel more comfortable with it than looking around a desktop that can be cluttered with open windows.

By "shell" I'm assuming you mean desktop environment, rather than a terminal shell.

Personally, I prefer xfce, but a lot of people prefer KDE or Gnome. There are dozens more out there, all of which act slightly differently. It just depends on how you like to work.

3) With this command I think I could look at large file usage: “du -s * | sort -nr > $HOME/user_space_report.txt”

I assume this is case-sensitive?

Yes. Everything in Linux is case-sensitive. user_space_report.txt is a different file than User_space_report.txt or user_space_report.txT

4) Can you use Linux without command line necessities for #2 tasks?

Most definitely. I have a application dock on my desktop that I use for those.

48 posted on 12/19/2018 6:24:53 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: mountainlion
How old of a machine can I install it on and will it operate old scanners and printers that HP/windows has decided to try to make junk out of.

It depends on the Linux "flavor" and desktop version as you would need a a lightweight distribution, running maybe the Xfce or LXDE desktop. 10 Best Lightweight Linux Distros For Old Computers | 2018 Edition https://fossbytes.com › Home › Geek

I have an old really good scanner that vista and higher does not want me to use.

I had one of those nice Canon LIDE 25 Flatbed Thin USB ones that lacked support a few years ago, and I threw it out. But now I see it works with W/7. Check for drivers.

49 posted on 12/19/2018 6:25:48 AM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: cuban leaf
I’d have to go Linux for both of them to make it worthwhile.

I *believe* that LibreOffice can create PP-compatible slideshows. I haven't tried, though.

50 posted on 12/19/2018 6:26:09 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: cuban leaf
Good answers. My point is that those are the FIRST questions on the mind of a non-techie when someone mentions Linux.

And as with buying a computer, what needs to be asked is what they want to use it for. As with browsers, some just want a basic family or sports car and others want a heavy duty utility truck (Firefox ESR unsurpassed).

51 posted on 12/19/2018 6:30:07 AM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212
I had one of those nice...

I have a HP Scanjet 5470c. Vista did not like it and HP had no updates. I can't remember how old it is. I had an old p4 that had a problem so I wiped the whole thing, I deleted the MS DOS also and have not figured out how to reload it. OOPS

52 posted on 12/19/2018 6:37:43 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: BipolarBob

“Windows 10 drove me to Linux”

That’s depressing and I’ve heard other comments like that.

I’ll look up Zorin Linux.

Do you do things that the masses don’t do? As I say, the internet and Office are about the only things I use.


53 posted on 12/19/2018 6:43:27 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: ShadowAce

BTTT.


54 posted on 12/19/2018 6:49:36 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: familyop
I use Yumi from https://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/ to make multiboot thumb drives so I can try out multiple distros. Very easy to use.
55 posted on 12/19/2018 7:05:55 AM PST by Dahoser
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To: daniel1212; ShadowAce; cuban leaf
What I find fascinating about this thread is the incredible similarities in debates about red-pilling centrists to join the Trump Train/MAGA bandwagon. That is, many people simply think all we need is for Trump to be Trump and people would magically vote for him if it wasn't for fraud, the media etc. In reality, you need an elevator speech to grab the attention of centrists willing to have a conversation then a set of bullet points behind the elevator speech, THEN we can wield Milton Friedman, the Federalist Papers etc. without being condescending.

Most computer users are like centrists...they may not even KNOW a "third way" exists between Windows and Mac. They think Linux is that kid carrying a blanket on Peanuts.

Approaching these computer users in the manner I propose could lead to a surge in Linux users provided full transparency on the learning curve. I have tech-savvy friends who are totally happy with iPhones while non-tech friends prefer Androids with blockers etc. Your mileage may vary.

56 posted on 12/19/2018 7:35:27 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2.)
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To: cymbeline
Do you do things that the masses don’t do? As I say, the internet and Office are about the only things I use.

I do things the masses don't do. I just use my puter for the internet but Zorin comes with a Libre suite of office tools. You can try them for free. They do all I need. I picked Zorin because it is most like Win7. Linux Mint is probably the most popular along with Ubuntu.

57 posted on 12/19/2018 7:35:43 AM PST by BipolarBob (Have a McClane Christmas : "Now I have a machine gun HO-HO - HO".)
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To: ShadowAce

What a guy/gal - not looking - getting son on road with a loaner LX470 - thanks! New tag, less leaves, gassed up, good tires, pressure and oil. ;-)


58 posted on 12/19/2018 7:39:32 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: cuban leaf

Install Linux on a virtual machine and use it for browsing and email. We do that for offices with high infection rates. They can’t do email or web on Windows.
Those are the two most likely conduits for trouble.


59 posted on 12/19/2018 7:47:28 AM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: ShadowAce

I do Linux at work. Installed it at home twice. Never use it. It seems the last thing I want to do when I get home is mess around with /bin/??? and vi.


60 posted on 12/19/2018 7:50:55 AM PST by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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