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Outraged Democrats vow to challenge court ruling undercutting Obamacare
Agence France-Presse ^ | 15 Dec 2018

Posted on 12/16/2018 5:25:39 PM PST by Olog-hai

Outraged Democrats vowed to appeal a federal judge’s ruling that could undo the US health care law known as Obamacare, saying on Saturday that they will use their new power in Congress to hold Republicans responsible and “expose their lies.”

US District Judge Reed O’Connor ruled late Friday that the health insurance reform, officially known as the Affordable Care Act (ACA), is unconstitutional.

The White House said it expects the ruling to be appealed to the Supreme Court. For now, it said in a statement, “the law remains in place.”

But Democrats, who have seen the law survive scores of legal and legislative attacks, vowed to fight back, saying the health coverage of millions of Americans is at stake.

Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer tweeted that Republicans had pretended to care about those protected by Obamacare “while quietly trying to remove that support in the courts. Next year, we will force votes to expose their lies.” …

(Excerpt) Read more at afp.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: democrats; obamacare; obamalegacy; zerocare
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To: Skywise
I’m sorry but you dems don’t have standing and Trump should order the justice department not to defend it.

Trump did order the Justice Department not to defend Obamacare and yes, California and other states do have standing. If Obamacare is truck down their Medicaid funding goes with it. That represents damages enough for them to have standing.

41 posted on 12/17/2018 5:22:34 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

I don’t see this case going anywhere unfortunately. Congress does have to fix the ACA. There isn’t enough choice of plans. As a retiree on a non medicare retirement plan I don’t need birth control or prenatal care but because the ACA requires all plans have it, I pay for it. No wonder premiums and deductibles are high.


42 posted on 12/17/2018 5:32:24 AM PST by marajade
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To: marajade
As a retiree on a non medicare retirement plan I don’t need birth control or prenatal care but because the ACA requires all plans have it, I pay for it. No wonder premiums and deductibles are high.

As a woman I don't need coverage for prostate cancer or Viagra. But I pay for that.

43 posted on 12/17/2018 5:36:15 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Me too.


44 posted on 12/17/2018 5:38:53 AM PST by marajade
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To: cuban leaf

Roberts did not “cave”. What he did was of his own will.


45 posted on 12/17/2018 5:39:13 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: marajade

Why do people talk as if nothing existed before Zerocare?


46 posted on 12/17/2018 5:40:55 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: DoodleDawg

Defense of Medicaid funding (socialism) is a shabby case.


47 posted on 12/17/2018 5:42:28 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

What he did was of his own will.


Then he has a screw loose and should be impeached. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.


48 posted on 12/17/2018 5:43:25 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

He’ll be impeached right after RBG is.


49 posted on 12/17/2018 5:44:57 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: DoodleDawg

Actually the immigration blocks were from District Courts too - not “supreme courts”


50 posted on 12/17/2018 5:45:33 AM PST by Skywise
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To: cuban leaf

When it comes to the feds, there’s only one question you need to ask: IS IT CONSTITUTIONAL?

If not, all the rest is bull shit.


51 posted on 12/17/2018 6:26:38 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jim 0216

When it comes to the feds, there’s only one question you need to ask: IS IT CONSTITUTIONAL?

If not, all the rest is bull shit.


Exactly. That’s why I was so frustrated by the SCOTUS.

The same sex marriage one was also a farce. At the end of the day, what they LITERALLY did was simply redefine a word, via the power of the SCOTUS. “Marriage” no longer means what it used to mean, thanks to an over-reaching court.


52 posted on 12/17/2018 6:45:11 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf
Direct attack on the First Amendment by the Supreme Court.

Thomas Jefferson worried about the power of the highest court in later years too:
… The nation declared its will by dismissing functionaries of one principle and electing those of another, in the two branches, executive and legislative, submitted to their election. Over the judiciary department the Constitution had deprived them of their control. That, therefore, has continued the reprobated system: and although new matter has been occasionally incorporated into the old, yet the leaven of the old mass seems to assimilate to itself the new; and after 20 years confirmation of the federated system by the voice of the nation declared through the medium of elections, we find the judiciary on every occasion still driving us into consolidation.

In denying the right they usurp of exclusively explaining the Constitution, I go further than you do, if I understand rightly your quotation from the Federalist of an opinion that the judiciary is the last resort in relation to the other departments of the government, but not in relation to the right of the parties to the compact under which the judiciary is derived. If this opinion be sound, then indeed is our Constitution a complete felo de se. For intending to establish three departments, coordinate and independent that they might check and balance one another, it has given, according to this opinion, to one of them alone the right to prescribe rules for the government of the others; and to that one too which is unelected by, and independent of, the nation. […]

The Constitution, on this hypothesis, is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form they please. It should be remembered as an axiom of eternal truth in politics that whatever power in any government is independent is absolute also.

Letter to Spencer Roane, 09/06/1819
One bad decision made a Constitutional crisis that led to civil war. Several others have led to other crises in this country, and always to push the country into “consolidation” as Jefferson put it (centralization) and to create more instability on behalf of the power-hungry.
53 posted on 12/17/2018 9:12:49 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

I wish we could go back. My health care premium doubled because of it.


54 posted on 12/17/2018 12:45:36 PM PST by marajade
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To: marktwain

FDR threatened to increase the SCOTUS’ number until he could get what he wanted, then suddenly it was found to be ‘constitutional’..................


55 posted on 12/17/2018 2:10:28 PM PST by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Olog-hai

No, no. One federal judge makes a ruling, that’s expected to be obeyed as the incontrovertible law of the land forevermore. Oh wait, this ruling was bad for statists and good for normal people...never mind....


56 posted on 12/17/2018 3:23:55 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: cuban leaf

The thing that pissed me off about the same-sex ‘marriage’ fiasco, or at least SCOTUS’ role in it, was this: When they addressed full faith and credit when some states legalized it, they sided with the homos and against states rights. BUT, when it came back for nationwide acceptance, they again voted with the homos, this time voting AGAINST states rights to do so. As you can see, there is one common factor between the two decisions, and consistent judicial philosophy ain’t it.


57 posted on 12/17/2018 3:28:26 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: marajade

How about we go back ALL the way before fascisti started pol=king their nose in health care funding, which is none of their business, and which poking is in fact the cause of any actual problems they claim to want to fix?


58 posted on 12/17/2018 3:31:03 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: DoodleDawg

Then you should be as po’ed


59 posted on 12/17/2018 5:01:27 PM PST by Adder (Mr. Franklin: We are trying to get the Republic back!)
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To: Still Thinking
The thing that pissed me off about the same-sex ‘marriage’ fiasco, or at least SCOTUS’ role in it, was this: When they addressed full faith and credit when some states legalized it, they sided with the homos and against states rights. BUT, when it came back for nationwide acceptance, they again voted with the homos, this time voting AGAINST states rights to do so. As you can see, there is one common factor between the two decisions, and consistent judicial philosophy ain’t it.

Exactly correct.

60 posted on 12/17/2018 5:16:40 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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