Posted on 12/06/2018 10:46:04 AM PST by C19fan
Brace yourselves … the U.S. Census Bureau just shared some information about the counties with the highest household income in the nation, and you’re in for a major shock:
U.S. Census Bureau ✔ @uscensusbureau Highest counties by median household income (2013-2017): -Loudoun County, Va. -Fairfax County, Va. -Howard County, Md. -Falls Church City, Va. -Arlington County, Va. https://go.usa.gov/xPuUe #ACSdata
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May I suggest you always include in any history lecture your contention that James Madison yapped like a dog. It provides a context for your claim that the “Father of the Constitution” was against the Constitution.
When Federalist Madison flipped & joined Jefferson's anti-Federalists he soon enough began sounding ("yapping") like his mentor, complimenting Jefferson's "nullification" doctrine with his own "interposition" theory.
On the other hand, President Madison reacted decisively against New England Federalists' Hartford Convention threats of secession.
Madison was under no illusions regarding an alleged "right of secession".
When Federalist Madison flipped & joined Jefferson's anti-Federalists he soon enough began sounding ("yapping") like his mentor, complimenting Jefferson's "nullification" doctrine with his own "interposition" theory.
On the other hand, President Madison reacted decisively against New England Federalists' Hartford Convention threats of secession.
Madison was under no illusions regarding an alleged "right of secession".
Prince Georges County?
Howard County is north of Baltimore.
Quite a commute.
You take the incidental flowery language to be the primary focus of the Declaration, and you completely ignore what was the real and salient point of the Declaration; That states had a right to become independent.
Nobody at the time took the "all men are created equal" as claiming that the Declaration freed slaves. That came later, when people realized it inspired them to believe that all men ought to be free.
The Declaration does not say that slaves should be free. That was people reading what they wanted into it. The Declaration does say that "people" have a right to independence if they want it.
Why do you try to substitute a fake meaning for a real one? Why do you reject the real meaning?
The federal government is a giant taxpayer money sieve.
Why should this be a surprise to anyone?
Abraham Lincoln, January 12, 1848
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable, a most sacred right—a right which, we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people that can may revolutionize, and make their own of so much of the territory as they inhabit. More than this, a majority of any portion of such people may revolutionize, putting down a minority, intermingled with, or near about them, who may oppose their movement. Such minority was precisely the case of the Tories of our own Revolution. It is a quality of revolutions not to go by old lines, or old laws; but to break up both, and make new ones. As to the country now in question, we bought it of France in 18O3, and sold it to Spain in 1819, according to the President’s statements. After this, all Mexico, including Texas, revolutionized against Spain; and still later, Texas revolutionized against Mexico. In my view, just so far as she carried her revolution, by obtaining the actual, willing or unwilling, submission of the people, so far the country was hers, and no farther.
He was for it before he decided to be against it.
“When Federalist Madison flipped & joined Jefferson’s anti-Federalists he soon enough began sounding (”yapping”) like his mentor, complimenting Jefferson’s “nullification” doctrine with his own “interposition” theory.”
Not just yapping; yapping dog you said about Madison earlier. And now, if I read you right, you are saying the same about Thomas Jefferson.
I am beginning to doubt your judgement.
A falsehood, a lie, regardless of how often you repeat it, or how much you decorate it with your own flowery language.
In fact there are no qualifiers in the Declaration to "all men are created equal", but a "right of secession" is clearly, unequivocally constrained by the necessities listed there at great length.
It is those necessities which explain & justify disunion.
No Founder ever proposed or supported unilateral unapproved declaration of secession at pleasure.
DiogenesLamp: "Nobody at the time took the 'all men are created equal' as claiming that the Declaration freed slaves.
That came later, when people realized it inspired them to believe that all men ought to be free."
"All men are created equal" was clearly aspirational, and many Founders including slave-holders like Washington & Jefferson believed it meant slaves should be freed eventually.
DiogenesLamp: "The Declaration does not say that slaves should be free.
That was people reading what they wanted into it.
The Declaration does say that "people" have a right to independence if they want it. "
That's still a lie, regardless of how often you repeat it.
Sorry, but it'll never get even a little truer just because you say it over & over & over again.
In fact the Declaration did indeed imply to our Founders that slaves should be freed, eventually.
And independence had nothing to do with "if they want it" and everything to do with the necessity spelled out at great length in their Declaration.
DiogenesLamp: "Why do you try to substitute a fake meaning for a real one?
Why do you reject the real meaning?"
Why do you lie constantly, despite knowing the absolute truth of the matter?
Young Lincoln here expressed himself inartfully, but even he included the qualifier "and having the power", meaning not every two people gathered together in the name of "independence" can declare it.
The truth is that by Lincoln's time many people, for reasons of their own, were misinterpreting our Founders Original Intent, words & actions.
As indeed, many still do to this day.
Why is that?
I see you've enjoyed my little figures of speech.
As leader of the anti-Federalist opposition to the Washington & Adams administrations, Jefferson was the "big dog" growling at the Constitution with his "nullification" doctrine.
Standing beside Jefferson was little Madison, yapping his two cents worth: "interposition".
However... when the chips were down, neither big Jefferson nor little Madison ever tolerated threats of unilateral unapproved declaration of secession at pleasure.
I suppose I could turn loose the Father of the Constitution and the Author of the Declaration of Independence - you call them growling and yapping dogs - on your stale, vanishing rabbit trail. But why?
For my purposes it is sufficient that you memorialize your bizarre musings about - and contempt for - these southern Founding Fathers.
Maryland “Freak State” PING!
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