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1 posted on 11/22/2018 7:12:14 AM PST by TNoldman
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Thank you for your post. I too am thinking of changing plans, but it all so very confusing to this old guy.


2 posted on 11/22/2018 7:18:20 AM PST by animal172 (Call me simply deplorable.)
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UP4Later


3 posted on 11/22/2018 7:21:53 AM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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Did a quick search because I wasn't aware of the MA plans...the link (copy and paste to your browser - I'm lazy) has good basic info to consider...

https://www.medicareadvocacy.org/choosing-between-traditional-medicare-and-a-medicare-advantage-plan/

4 posted on 11/22/2018 7:22:46 AM PST by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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That sounds like a very substantial savings!!
Maybe check with an independent agency that is less likely to steer you toward a certain policy group.
eg
https://boomerbenefits.com
https://www.castleseniorbenefits.com


6 posted on 11/22/2018 7:26:45 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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My wife and I have been on a MA plan for 5 years. Couldn’t be happier and the cost is very reasonable.


7 posted on 11/22/2018 7:27:48 AM PST by rexthecat
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We do Medicare in concert with United Healthcare. It’s a plan offered thru the state (wife is retired state worker). United has been absolutely great to work with...on top of medical situations, helpful when called, great coverage, and reasonably priced. We’re even covered of we need medical care out of country. We only have to present the United membership card (not the Medicare card). Note: this is a state-supported plan so the state retiree system pays part, plus the state has probably negotiated a reasonable plan for retirees.

But United has been great.


8 posted on 11/22/2018 7:30:44 AM PST by moovova
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I switched to Advantage through BCBS a couple of years ago for the very fact that I have four specialists for my current health problems, and Advantage lets me go to any doctor, not limiting me to just those who accept regular Medicare.

I like that flexibility.


9 posted on 11/22/2018 7:34:30 AM PST by FrankR (Make America Great Again, and Keep It That Way.)
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Advantage is for healthy people, not sick people.husband sick chronic problems surgery paid only deductible so why would he ask if he should do advAntage to save money. They nit pic you.its a problem if you want to go back to Medicare costs more and underwriting.i told him he was nuts.


11 posted on 11/22/2018 7:38:12 AM PST by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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I'm 71, in good shape, take no drugs and I've been on a Medicare Advantage plan for six years now ... pay $75 a month. Nevertheless, things can change quickly, so I annually review all my options - Medicare, MediGap and Advantage.
My bottom line takeaway each year is that if I wasn't in good shape, Medi-Gap Plan N would probably be best for me.
Have you considered staying on Medi-Gap but changing plans?
13 posted on 11/22/2018 7:47:23 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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Plans vary from state to state and within states.

I have had MA for years and have changed plans [forced and voluntary] several times.

Two years ago AARP/United Healthcare shafted us. They dropped nearly 3/4 of the doctors from my plan in the summer. They did assign another doctor, however, but I did not want to have to get new prescriptions, etc. They were fighting with the area medical groups to get more $$$.

They finally settled in the late autum and retro’ed payments to doctors. They did not tell us, of course, that they would retro.

I dropped them.

My current plan is through Aetna. My PCP copay is $5; some companies are now charging $0. My 90-day generic prescriptions are $0. [Competition has heated up in the MA market.]

You have to consider your circumstances and pick the plan that best suits you. You can compare plans on the Medicare.gov website. If you get a mail copy of Medicare and You 2019, it may list plans available in your area.


15 posted on 11/22/2018 8:05:42 AM PST by TomGuy
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One of the best decisions I made was to join the National Guard after I left after duty. I have a total of 22 years of military service which qualifies me for Tricare For Life.

I began to receive all sorts of advertising for Medicare Supplement Plans when I qualified for Medicare at age 65. I contacted Humana which provided Tricare services. Humana said they would sell me a policy but that I already had the best supplemental policy there was, Tricare for Life.

Essentially, Tricare for Life pay very thing Medicare doesn’t. I had surgery to reconnect four tendons in my hand that had been separated. I saw one bill for $20K. My cost was $7 for some pain killers. My cataract surgery was paid for completely.


17 posted on 11/22/2018 8:22:34 AM PST by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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“”United Healthcare Advantage Plans””

What would keep me from United Healthcare is their relationship to AARP which I want nothing to do with but if it’s saving $$$, I guess it’s time to stop being so prejudiced against AARP. I did find some lower drug costs when I checked some of prices there this week...Still cogitating and December 7 will be coming up fast.

Good luck to everyone with open enrollment...


19 posted on 11/22/2018 8:59:10 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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advantage plans are fine as long as you are healthy ... not good at all if/when you or your wife develop multiple, severe and/or unusual health problems ... of course you can always switch each year in November ... in my opinion, if you can afford top of the line health insurance, it’s the only way to go ... trying to save money on your health is foolish IF you can afford it ... remember, the main purpose of advantage plans is to provide the cheapest and most limited options possible so the company can make a profit ... also, your care will be 100% restricted by a gatekeeper doc assigned to you, and you might not be able to get one you get along with ...


20 posted on 11/22/2018 9:09:11 AM PST by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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We have traditional Medicare and an AARP United Healthcare Plan F as a supplemental. We pay $336 a month for the supplemental. I have a lot of health problems. It only takes one major health event to bankrupt the average American. The reason that you see the Advantage plans advertised is this: the companies make a ton of money since there are so many exclusions and limitations compared to traditional Medicare and a really good supplemental.


22 posted on 11/22/2018 9:10:22 AM PST by jimbug
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Mr. RightField has had an advantage program since he got on Medicare 10 years ago. It has not worked well for him for several reasons. He is restricted to a network and that does not give him good coverage when we travel. We travel 4-6 months of each year in our motorhome. Also, while procedures may be listed as 'covered' under the MA, in reality there are no providers in the network, so it would end up much more expensive than even stand-alone Medicare because of the higher cost for non-network providers. We also had situations where a network provider tried to sub-contract to a non-network provider (think anesthesiologist) and the non-network provider billed us for services. For that one, we threatened legal action and the provider backed down quickly.

Another annoying feature of the MA plan was that the insurance company was always trying to insert themselves between Mr. RightField and his doctors. The company always wanted to visit him in our home, to provide "extra care" and provide a "list of concerns" to be shared with the doctor on his next office visit. We would also get calls from the insurance company pharmacist to "go over" his list of medications and "coordinate" with his primary physician. We would get offers to get $25 gift cards to various restaurants or stores if he would just acquiesce to a in-home visit to have a nurse practitioner give him an addition exam ... and evaluate the safety of our home.

The requests for home visits got the same answer: The only entrance to our home is with an invitation or a warrant, and you have neither.

This year, Mr. RightField's MA has cancelled their program in our area. It is called a "Service Area Reduction," and opens up what is called a Special Election Period whereby Mr. RightField can get a guaranteed-issue supplement plan. We're going to go with Plan F (same as what I have). Yes, it is more expensive, and he has to get a prescription plan as well.

But, for us, the freedom to choose any provider, anywhere in the country, far outweighs any so-called extra benefit touted by a Medicare advantage program. Freedom isn't free.

30 posted on 11/22/2018 10:48:42 AM PST by RightField
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My wife and I are on Medicare/Supplemental Plan F plus we each have part D drug plans. I had enjoyed very good health, but I was diagnosed with prostate cancer 2 1/2 years ago and had a prostatectomy. Medicare/plan F paid for everything. After 2 years PSA results started climbing and I’m now undergoing radiation therapy. No bills for it, so far. I figure my Supplemental Plan F cost of $175/mo is a pretty good deal, all in all.

What no one has mentioned so far is that each state is different when it comes to plans. In Missouri I can change plans not just in Oct/Dec but also in the month that I first enrolled in a plan without having pre-existing conditions applied against me—unlike if I switch now.

My mom 99 had an Advantage plan in SoCal, but she seemed to be very limited to doctors/hospitals, etc. Cal is big on HMOs but they are unknown here in SE MO. So I guess I’m saying a lot depends on where you live.


34 posted on 11/22/2018 12:27:14 PM PST by hanamizu
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First: if you leave original Medicare for an Advantage Plan & you DON’T live in one of only 2 or 3 states that allow “Guaranteed Issue” you could be locked out of going back to original Medicare, forever. Because you will be subject to a medical review & if you are unhealthy you will not be allowed back in.

Second: Advantage Plans are private companies & they will not always approve everything Medicare would. It happens all the time. Go read the horror stories all over the internet. Advantage Plans are ok if you are healthy, but not worth it IMO long-term.


35 posted on 11/22/2018 12:30:40 PM PST by LongWayHome
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A lot of good insights being offered here! Answered most of the questions I had on this subject.


48 posted on 11/22/2018 2:54:43 PM PST by GreenHornet
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Is it really Medicare vs Advantage? Wouldn’t it be Medicare vs Advantage or Supplemental?

When I went on Medicare, I had no choice; at 65 we ALL go on Medicare. Having Medicare, then you can choose between an Advantage Plan or a Supplemental Plan. We chose Supplemental Plan G or F (can’t recall which) through Mutual of Omaha. Advantage had some OK benefits, but the coverage was much better on a Supplemental (I think it’s also called medi-gap.)

We contacted AMAC, the “conservative alternative to AARP” and were put in touch with an agent who shopped around for the best option for us. That was five years ago. Then my husband turned 65 three years later and went through the same agent. He’s been a good touchstone when we needed.

Whatever you do, if you go to any government sponsored seminars, take in the info but then do your own research beyond that. Two women who facilitated the Medicare workshop we attended were in love with Obamacare and would never give us straight answers to basically any question about Advantage vs Supplemental.


64 posted on 11/22/2018 5:44:30 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Great things never come from comfort zones.)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqW-wFnxhp0

Watch this before buying supplemental insurance.


75 posted on 11/24/2018 5:28:04 AM PST by Not gonna take it anymore (Now that Trump has won, I don't have to post about halfwit anymore)
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