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[YouTube video] Posters ask very important question about "Camp Fire Video on Skyay"
YouTube ^ | Richard Silva [poster]

Posted on 11/16/2018 10:18:34 AM PST by righttackle44

#CampFire video on Skyway this morning.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Science
KEYWORDS: california; campfire; dew; drought; dsj02; globalwarminghoax; sierranevadas; suspicious; wildfire
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To: amorphous

You may be right. Burning fuel can create a lot of heat, but a lot of that will go upwards. But with enough wind the flames can blowtorch at least two of the wheels.


41 posted on 11/16/2018 12:18:09 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: dangus
I see what looks like asphalt pavement, which comes from the bottom of the cracking tower in the refining of oil process. Molten aluminum should burn asphalt, or at least melt asphalt, yet most don't appear not that damaged. A lot of rock content might be one answer.

I also see a lot concrete driveways. Some of the driveways appear to have signs of spalling (chips of concrete popping off). apparently from high heat, while the plastic trashcans nearby are hardly damaged, and the cars nearby have their rims totally melted. I'm guessing the wind directed heat/fire in a certain direction, sparing other things like the greenery, plastic cans, etc., nearby??

42 posted on 11/16/2018 12:21:45 PM PST by amorphous
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To: palmer
Has to be either wind raising the temp of the fire and causing a blowtorch effect, or microwave energy! ;-)

The image of the melted rims you posted appears to be from a wind blown fire?

43 posted on 11/16/2018 12:24:33 PM PST by amorphous
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To: righttackle44

Are people really this stupid? Has no one ever seen a fire move?

I am embarrassed to see that people actually are even discussing somthing this asinine.

THIS IS HOW FIRE WORKS!


44 posted on 11/16/2018 12:30:03 PM PST by Ndorfin (Kitties,titties, and fiddies)
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To: Robert DeLong

Pine trees give off huge amounts of aromatic compounds, which happen to smell nice, but in organic chemistry means phenol-based compounds. They are EXTREME flammable, but are outgassed BEFORE the wood burns. Thus, in a chimney they are very dangerous becuase they coat the chimney with a highly flammable substance.

In forest fires, these can ignite after they leave the trees, making the pine trees operate almost like roman candles. But amazingly, they can remain themselves unburned.


45 posted on 11/16/2018 12:33:49 PM PST by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. Athanasius)
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To: amorphous

Yes, that was the Gatlinburg TN fire. Wind is more rare there than in California but it is estimated they had winds up to 60 mph.


46 posted on 11/16/2018 12:34:59 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: palmer
But with enough wind the flames can blowtorch at least two of the wheels.

One would think, but I saw some, IIRC, with all four rims totally melted off - nothing left but the wheel nuts. And the small utility trailer I saw with the twisted tongue, I can't explain that, at least not from looking at the video - that's in the video I linked to.

Also, I tried to find the image of the stores in the large parking area I mentioned, it's in a Youtube video called ***The Horrible Truth About The Northern California Fires***, but it seems to be missing now - I did save a screen shot though.

If those building had wooden shake roofs, then that may explain why three largely separated stores in a large parking area were totally destroyed while their greenery was mostly unharmed.

47 posted on 11/16/2018 12:37:38 PM PST by amorphous
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To: palmer
Wind is more rare there than in California but it is estimated they had winds up to 60 mph.

Okay, I think we're both coming to the same conclusion then.

Where I live, winds of that speed are even more rare. Maybe that explains why I've never seen totally melted rims on burned vehicles. Wind blown fire is going to be much hotter, like a blacksmith's forge with an attached bellows, supplying more oxygen.

48 posted on 11/16/2018 12:42:28 PM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous
Yes, shake roofs are bad and a possible cause. But there are other potential fire entry points as well. See video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vh4cQdH26g
49 posted on 11/16/2018 12:52:10 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: palmer

Thanks.


50 posted on 11/16/2018 1:04:10 PM PST by amorphous
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To: Ndorfin
Are people really this stupid? Has no one ever seen a fire move?

So VERY glad you're so much smarter than everyone else.

By the way, are you a Democrat?
51 posted on 11/16/2018 2:13:05 PM PST by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: righttackle44

Guy’s driving through a burned out rural community without electricity service with under a 1/4 tank of gas.

Smart. /s


52 posted on 11/16/2018 2:54:33 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Cowgirl
"The whole thing looks like DEW and certainly not a “Camp Fire”."

WTH is this wacko thing called "DEW" you keep babbling about?

Something supposedly related to our fixed-azimuth cold war Distant Early Warning Line radars near the Arctic circle?

Please "enlighten" us...

TXnMA
 

53 posted on 11/16/2018 3:27:15 PM PST by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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To: RinaseaofDs
"Melted the rims?"

"Unreal."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Aluminum alloys.

Ever hear of melting beer cans and pouring the melt down fire ant holes?

Several videos on the subject on YouTube...

Pure aluminium metal melts at 1,221°F (660.32°C). Eutectic mixtures (alloys -- as used in wheels) melt at considerably lower temperatures.

(Analogy: pure Tin & Lead -- vs -- 63%/37% solder...)

Real.

TXnMA
 

54 posted on 11/16/2018 3:46:18 PM PST by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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To: amorphous
Ever seen plastic trashcans full of gasoline (like cars)?

Ever consider the extreme high combustion temperature of tire rubber? (Routinely used for softening large pipeline sections for bending with "Cats"...)

Ever consider melting point of aluminum alloys? (See #54...)

Not everything "odd" is inexplicable -- when you take physics and materials science into consideration.

TXnMA
 

55 posted on 11/16/2018 3:59:04 PM PST by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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To: TXnMA

Nice! Thank you.


56 posted on 11/16/2018 4:14:03 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: TXnMA

Not everything "odd" is inexplicable...

LOL! Coming from a Qfer, that's pretty damn funny! :)

57 posted on 11/16/2018 4:38:37 PM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous
I have sound reason for having created -- and for including including the "" in my signature: I enjoy the displays of ignorance engendered by it.

I use it unreservedly, and with confidence, because I recognize and understand the "Q" comms (both style/format and content).

As you can see, I'm no noob here, (10 days away from my 18th FR anniversary) and am neither a conspiracy theorist nor a gullible acolyte.

Thank you for contributing to my list of FReepers to be re-visited -- to see who has the last laugh... Nous verrons... '-)

Confidently,
TXnMA
 

58 posted on 11/16/2018 5:24:50 PM PST by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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To: RinaseaofDs
You're welcome!

Some of those fire ant nest castings are real works of art:

TXnMA
 

59 posted on 11/16/2018 5:38:24 PM PST by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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To: TXnMA
I find it quite hypocritical of you implying others are conspiracy theorists for discussing oddities in a fire, and for trying to understand what may have caused them, when many consider "Q" followers the very definition of a "conspiracy nut". BTW, I follow "Q" too. I just don't broadcast it. So forget ever having an "I told you so" orgasm with me.

And if you take the time to carefully review my posts in the thread, you'll see where I mention the approx. melting point of aluminum in a joint effort with others to understand how melted aluminum could flow so far from the point of origination.

Purposeful open air burning of automobile tires has been outlawed in most states for a large number of years now. I doubt they're still being used to heat and bend pipelines - which could create stresses in the pipe that might lead to an eventual rupture - and a practice I'm sure the Office of Pipeline Safety would love to know about.

Some of us here have welded more aluminum, bent more steel, ran and worked on more dozers, and other special purpose equipment than you've probably ever seen, not to mention earned awards, accolades, and news interviews concerning firefighting, bud.

60 posted on 11/16/2018 8:31:30 PM PST by amorphous
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